educate me on cutting sups please

[roidboyjnr]

i wanna bulk up but need to cut down a bit first.
ive done 5 weeks dieting and training hard and lost about 8cm off my gut now have the stuborn fat there. ive had the hydroxycut and lipos6 and the MX-LS7 which i have 20 days left to take.

doing 4 hours cardio a week plus weight days , so 6 days training a week.

just need advice on stanazol as in dose and time ive used before but i obviosly need to stack with something but what?
also the pain in the leg is hardcore.
any oral suggestion ?
im 176cm tall and 78kgs at 33yrs

thanx

[DRLifter]

I have only used clen in my life and is working wonders 8 lbs in a week and a half and very little loss in muscle, is amazing, you may want to use it, but it may give you problems in your cardiovascular system, you have to check you BP while on it, in animals given way large doses it caused heart damage, but i have yet hear a human taking normal doses have any big problem with it, it also will give you shakes and some headaches. I have never used any AAS in my life but i have read that you can drink Stanozolol {Winstrol} (is that what you meant with stanazol) isntead of injecting it to avoid the pain in the leg. There's more people here who knows more than me and can help yoy more but that was my 2 cents.

[CheddaNips]

um you are looking to bulk after cutting? If you are going to use winstrol, then use test in a bulking cycle and winstrol the last 4 weeks of it to lean up. IMO

[roidboyjnr]

hi and thanx for yr replies
cheddanips":::the reason im cutting before is im so close now to being ripped with abs id rather finish that. I will then bulk up on a clean diet with 20 mins cardio a day after training.

drlifter ::: how did u find the liver after using these clen ? was looking at this ultimate cutting stak did u get that?(http://www.buysteroids.com/ultimate-...4blpv72ur5ap80) my BP is spot on at the mo so its should be sweet.
yeah it was stanazol i was taking the purple bottle and yeah i looked into this drinking stuff and had mixed reviews on that. oh n yeah it hurts lol.
thanx for your 2 cents it was worth more to me mate....

thanx again guys

[Njord]

hi and thanx for yr replies
cheddanips":::the reason im cutting before is im so close now to being ripped with abs id rather finish that. I will then bulk up on a clean diet with 20 mins cardio a day after training.

drlifter ::: how did u find the liver after using these clen ? was looking at this ultimate cutting stak did u get that?(http://www.buysteroids.com/ultimate-...4blpv72ur5ap80) my BP is spot on at the mo so its should be sweet.
yeah it was stanazol i was taking the purple bottle and yeah i looked into this drinking stuff and had mixed reviews on that. oh n yeah it hurts lol.
thanx for your 2 cents it was worth more to me mate....

thanx again guys

The stuff sold on that website are not steroids. They have name that make you think they are. What's in them is anybody's guess. Don't waste your money.

[Njord]

Also, I'm confused. Why is your leg hurting? Are you injecting something?

[CheddaNips]

Really. Thr banner at the top of the site?

[roidboyjnr]

oh ok , i thought as it says steroids that they were...

Yes i was injecting stanazol back about 2 yrs ago.

well im lost know

[Njord]

Really. Thr banner at the top of the site?

I'm not sure if you are asking me or? But anyways, I'm talking about the site with the deca 200, tren 75 etc. Not ar-r on the top of the page, they are legit.

[Njord]

I found this on another forum:

Alright, I'll admit...I'm a sucker! I'm new to all this (first post) but I know a lot of people will have these questions that are new (like me). Call me an idiot, because I purchased without researching...and that's not like me...why on earth I thought purchasing these products over the net knowing full well that they were coming from Conroe, TX is beyond me...

But hey, who in here hasn't made a mistake on the internet? This will eventually cost me $58 (shipping + restocking fee)

Ok, here's the story:

So I just got my shipment (I'm REAL new to all this) from this place TODAY.

I received the following (for $202 including shipping):
Tren 75 (finabolon): 90 capsules, 75 mg
Winn-50 (vanazolol): 90 capsules, 50 mg
Clen: 90 capsules

All products state "This is not a steroid" along with some other generic label filler...

Here's what they are:
Tren 75 (finabolon) Dietary Supplement
Finabolon: 75 mg
Remaining Proprietary Blend: 603 mg (Trigonella foenum-graecum L, tribulus, pausinystalia yohimba, capsaicin)

Winn-50 (vanazolol) Dietary Supplement
Iron: 3mg
Vitamin B12: 50 mcg
Vanazolol Sulphate 50 mg (Dehydroepiandosterone, Taraxacum officinale, caffeine, vanadyl sulphate, Cobalmin, Iron)

Clen Dietary Supplement
Vitamin B12: 50 mcg
Clen: 577 mg (Octapamine HCL, Caffeine, capsaicin, pausinystalia yohimba, GuggleSterones z-e, Synephrine HCL)

This is the first time I have actually seen the ingredients listed.

[DRLifter]

Clenbuterol (Clen) doesnt affect the liver, it may affect your heart but it is very unlikely, check your BP regularly and you are good to go.

[roidboyjnr]

my heart is perfect , but now im confused which site is good ?? im not asking either just confussed from the other poster...

[Njord]

my heart is perfect , but now im confused which site is good ?? im not asking either just confussed from the other poster...

Sorry to confuse you.

buysteroids.com = bad

ar-r = good

[IvanDrago]

also in reference to the pain of injecting stanazol...look into the oral form of it though it may be rough on the liver you can take something like milk thistle or Liv52 to help out and run it like 4-5 wks that should be ok

[IvanDrago]

oh almost forgot 50mgs a day is a good dose

[wilson9d]

I found this on another forum:



This is the first time I have actually seen the ingredients listed.

Isn’t b12 good for the skin? I’m worried about wrinkles and fine lines.

[roidboyjnr]

Hey thanks heaps guys, your advice is awesome.

ok another question, I’m getting a bit confused now as I’ve lose a fair bit with just diet and exercise and noticed how little I will look if I get totally ripped, but my mind frame was get ripped then bulk so then keep a clean diet when bulking it should be an easier cut at the end.
Also I wanted to progress with lean muscle not fat as well.
So what would you do?

Also what is the best stack to buy to bulk and cut from that place suggested, would like to budget about $350 for a 8 week cycle.

Thanks’ again