c bino plese help

[lovetobebig1984]

i have some questions for you about my letro but i cant pm you help please!! i just got my lerto today and my gyno is really bad what should i take was wondering if i could just start off on the high dose cause i am really pron to gyno and nolva just dont do anything

[whiteronniewannabe]

Mate, there was a link in your previous post about this. Go on the link! I tells you EVERYTHING. Evan what you need to know. Dont be lazy

[lovetobebig1984]

i know but it says to taper up i was wonering if i could just start out on the 2.5mg from the start cause of how bad the gyno is

[whiteronniewannabe]

my bad, my computer went crazy and didnt get tha last post you did. I dont know. Needs the tit doctor!!

[Phate]

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[whiteronniewannabe]

Out of interest, cos Ive never actually experienced it myself, touch wood I wont, but I feared I had it but it was just me being paranoid, is it a really obvious lump under your nips? Or could it be mistaken for regular tissue? Does it hurt to squeez etc?

[Phate]

you have letro- and you started late. Ok, frontload a little by running 1mg/day for the first 3 days, taper down to .25mg/day and only raise it if your gyno acts up

day1: 1mg
day2: 1mg
day3: 1mg
day4: .75mg
day5: .5mg
day6: .5mg
day7: .25mg

[lovetobebig1984]

my gyno is bad they are in both nipples and about the size of a golf ball
it sucks im stupid for not runing protection i know but just want it gone before i start my new cycle

[Phate]

have you read C bino's gyno thread if not it's here, it's got protocols for when gyno is in latter stages

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...highlight=gyno

[lovetobebig1984]

ya i read it but it dont say anything about severe cases like mine i would say mine is bad but i have no one to compre it to but they are large like i said like golf balls and very sens. so i was just trying to see what i could do to get rid of it as fast as possible thats why i was wondering about frontloading or just starting off at a high dose

[lovetobebig1984]

Out of interest, cos Ive never actually experienced it myself, touch wood I wont, but I feared I had it but it was just me being paranoid, is it a really obvious lump under your nips? Or could it be mistaken for regular tissue? Does it hurt to squeez etc?

ya you would no white they are sore and it feels like a little lump at first then it starts to swell up just like a little girl who is just developing breasts its the same thing

[lovetobebig1984]

so phate will my gyno be gone in those 7 days?

[Phate]

hard to judge as i can't see it and i don't know how prone you are or what you ran to get it in the first place, i'm also not the most knowledgable on this subject i'll admit, but i pm'd Bino and asked him to look over this thread, plus Njord is looking over it so you'll get some good answers pretty quick

[jAcKeD!!!!]

so phate will my gyno be gone in those 7 days?

there is no set "date" your gyno will clear, as phate was saying, we no nothing on how big your gyno is nor do we know how prone you are.

[lovetobebig1984]

thanks jacked to let you have an idea im really pron to gyno if i look at test i get lumps lol and right now cause im stupid they are about the size of golf balls i just want them to go down so i can start my new cycle and ill be sure to run nolva with it... so what do you think?

[lovetobebig1984]

thanks phate question why cant i pm people yet? and to answer what i was on to get it i was taking sust 250mg at 500mg a week and decca dura at 400mg a week for 8 weeks with anadol 50mg at 100mg a day for 4 weeks

[lovetobebig1984]

just want to say you guys are great you are so helpfull thanks a lot

[Phate]

thanks phate question why cant i pm people yet? 100 posts and 45 days on the forum to pm i believe
and to answer what i was on to get it i was taking sust 250mg at 500mg a week and decca dura at 400mg a week for 8 weeks with anadol 50mg at 100mg a day for 4 weeks did you ask on here about that cycle?, was it your first? because to me it's a waste

just wondering on the cycle question

[lovetobebig1984]

no ididnt ask on here but i did ask about my new cycle and i just got my order so what should i do i got test e and eq/bold and dbol what do you think my cycle should look like this time. i got 20 amps of each and 200 dbols

[Phate]

i think you should run test e at 500mg/week for 12 weeks, it's a standard beginner cycle and people like you are the reason that it's only test to start off with. People that are really gyno prone to test or deca have huge problems when they run them together for a first cycle cause they get huge gyno and don't know what caused it

so i'd start a thread and post cycle and get it critiqued, do test e 500mg/week maybe throw in a dbol kicker at 40mg/week for 4 weeks, then see how you do

btw, not trying to sound me with the "people like you thing", i was refering to you being gyno prone

[lovetobebig1984]

thats cool so i should not take the eq or the dbols. i have done 4 cycles before and the only reason why i only ran the shots for 8 weeks is cause i was going to switch to the test e and the eq with the dbols otherwise i would have ran a full 12 weeks like i did before. and also i ran 3 cycles of decca end sust before and this is the first time i ran into the severe gyno like this its really wierd

[Phate]

1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day

run that, it's a good cycle and see if the gyno flairs up again, but make sure to give you body good rest after the cycle your on before starting another one,

you know your supposed to give you body AT LEAST equal time off as on, ex. a twelve week cycle and four week pct should mean at least 16-20 weeks of off cycle rest for your body

[lovetobebig1984]

ok i get it now so i should just drop the eq? everyone says it stacks great with test e and dbol and i would get great size? but when i read up on eq it dont sound to great....

[lovetobebig1984]

and also seeing as how my lumps are large like golf balls what should i do witht he letro and how long will it take to work? also should i run nolva during this cycle or save it for pct cause i have that and hcg

[Phate]

most people use eq for cutting cycles because of it's lean muscle gaining ability, you could use it, but i'd run the test cycle first, then you can ad eq next time if you want, just be patient with it

[lovetobebig1984]

some say they use it in place of decca cause it will help you blow up faster and get more solid gains.....what do you think?

[lovetobebig1984]

my sorce said if i want to get big fast for a mass cyle to run the eq test e and dbol all at once....

[lovetobebig1984]

but from the sounds of things the eq wont really help to much....

[PT]

surgery is probably the only thing that will help your gyno bro. once it progresses that far there isnt any drugs that will help

[C_Bino]

You can start high if you want. And there is absolutely NO WAY of telling if anyones gyno can be cured, how long it will take or how long after you get it you can wait before its too late to reverse it.

I get PM's about this everyday...hey its been 2 months since I got gyno can I reverse it?

My answer: I got no damn idea in holy hell. But isnt it worth a try?

[lovetobebig1984]

well im have been taking 1.25mg for 2 days now and my left nipple is geting smaller already my right is still large but the tenderness is going away so i would say that even bad gyno will go away with the letro and i have only had it bad for 3 to 4 weeks so i didnt wait like 2 months or anything to cure it i just came off my cycle 2 weeks ago and they were just getting bad then.

[lovetobebig1984]

thanks for the respond c bino and pietro you guys are all very helpfull. so should i continue to raise my letro to the full 2.50mg and then stay there till it is all gone?

[C_Bino]

thanks for the respond c bino and pietro you guys are all very helpfull. so should i continue to raise my letro to the full 2.50mg and then stay there till it is all gone?

Ya that would be fine. I find I dont even ever need to go as high as 2.5mg to reverse gyno. I find once the AAS clear from my system that the gyno will leave just usign a maintenance dose of .5mg ed.

I just use this the entire way throughout a cycle, gyno will appear at some point but then leave after as long as I keep the letro going.

[lovetobebig1984]

so will the letro stop me from retaining water weight cause i want the water weight i know most people would be like why do you want water weight but i like how it gives me size and it actually seems to make my muscels feel better and my joints less sore..

[Phate]

you will lose your water retention more than likely, but take your pick, bitch tits or water weight, not a hard one for me

[lovetobebig1984]

will nolva do the same thing? mine are going away now but when i start my new cycle i want to run something so i dont get them back like that again.

[Phate]

you are just gyno prone or you didn't know what you were doing on your last cycle, i'd go read in the PCT section for a couple weeks, print off some threads and stickys and research

that's what i do, i've made a huge steroid book with all the profiles cycles stickies and information i can think to print, and i read through it during cardio so i'm killing two birds with one stone

[lovetobebig1984]

thanks thats a good idea