is this too harsh for a first cycle?

[MattUK666]

Wow ok, some great information there! So it can create gyno, which is why we need the nolva on hand.

So what its saying is, the more test we shoot (lets say 1000mg per week), the more chance we will get gyno, ok, im just understanding this....

What about the effects of the test on the body, as in, is it simple like, the more mg per week you shoot, the bigger you get and stronger you get? Or is there a point where it will just not work anymore, like lets say, over 800mg per week? Does that make any sense?

Thanks

[shifty_git]

Wow ok, some great information there! So it can create gyno, which is why we need the nolva on hand.

So what its saying is, the more test we shoot (lets say 1000mg per week), the more chance we will get gyno, ok, im just understanding this....

What about the effects of the test on the body, as in, is it simple like, the more mg per week you shoot, the bigger you get and stronger you get? Or is there a point where it will just not work anymore, like lets say, over 800mg per week? Does that make any sense?

Thanks

Well nolva being a SERM wont stop aromatization, but will bind to the estro receptor and stop the estro from binding to it.

An AI like arimidex will stop the aromatization in the first place, which is what makes it the better choice to use on cycle.

Yep ya right about there being a point it wont benefit anymore. Every guys level is different, but some people get no better gains on 1000mg per week compared with say 500mg.

A bit of estro is a good thing though, so theres a point where its a pro... but once the estro level rises 2 much it becomes a con. Which is the reason not to take ya AI from the start of the cycle but only take it once the pro switch's to a con.

check out this thread by Merc on estro and gains.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=319202

[boDAWG]

Wow ok, some great information there! So it can create gyno, which is why we need the nolva on hand.

So what its saying is, the more test we shoot (lets say 1000mg per week), the more chance we will get gyno, ok, im just understanding this....

What about the effects of the test on the body, as in, is it simple like, the more mg per week you shoot, the bigger you get and stronger you get? Or is there a point where it will just not work anymore, like lets say, over 800mg per week? Does that make any sense?

Thanks

ORRRR you can start your own thread and get responses there.....how does that sound???