Hey guys, thanks for everything so far. umm...I told him to do his own research a while back, but all he comes up with is prices and where to buy the things. Also, while I am more serious about training and nutrition and all that stuff, he isn't as much. he eats a fairly clean diet naturally but with research and supps(legal or not) he just kind of goes with what people tell him. He's also the type of guy where things are very psychological. I could probably give him some sugar and water in a bottle that says testosterone and he would think he's Arnold. either way though...I know he'll listen to me as he knows I'm serious about things like this and will give him a good honest right from wrong answer/opinion.

also, he hates needles so injection is out of the question...is there any orals like the one mentioned that clears out quickly? I read on another site that Anavar is a good one especially for baseball...actually wait...I think it was on this site. Ohh well...thanks again guys.