Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less

[Tesla]

American Solutions is collecting signatures to strongly encourage Congress to open up domestic drilling so that we can become independent of the OPEC cartel, just like Brazil has already done. Drilling in many parts of the U.S. is actually illegal, as New Gingrich explains in the video. Being freed from the OPEC cartel will free America from price fixing and will lower prices at the pump. If this is something you believe in, please check out the link and watch the short video. If not, please ignore this thread.

http://www.americansolutions.com/act...b-346a1e096659

[IronReload04]

signed

[RuhlFreak55]

American Solutions is collecting signatures to strongly encourage Congress to open up domestic drilling so that we can become independent of the OPEC cartel, just like Brazil has already done. Drilling in many parts of the U.S. is actually illegal, as New Gingrich explains in the video. Being freed from the OPEC cartel will free America from price fixing and will lower prices at the pump. If this is something you believe in, please check out the link and watch the short video. If not, please ignore this thread.

http://www.americansolutions.com/act...b-346a1e096659

rofl you know that that logic of freeing us from price fixing isn't at all what will change the price right?????? The increased supply would make oil trade down on simple supply and demand just like it always trades. All OPEC does is control supply to a point....they don't control price at all.

[IronReload04]

what needs to be done is exactly this

Drill In america to get gas prices back down where they belong, while we transition to an alternate energy source if needed

[RuhlFreak55]

what needs to be done is exactly this

Drill In america to get gas prices back down where they belong, while we transition to an alternate energy source if needed

well yea i wasn't arguing that.....it's gonna take 4 or 5 years from the date they say we can do it though for the oil to get to market. morons should have done it 10 years ago.

[Tesla]

morons should have done it 10 years ago.

I definitely agree with that

[RuhlFreak55]

I definitely agree with that

lol the brazilians will probably get their new found field to market before our dumbass tree huggers allow us to drill at home......regardless at least it's increased supply from somewhere.

[1down5up]

signed

[RuhlFreak55]

signed

is that a Cane Corso in your avie?

[Tesla]

what needs to be done is exactly this

Drill In america to get gas prices back down where they belong, while we transition to an alternate energy source if needed

Yeah, definitely more alternative energy. I'm not much on corn ethanol, but there's a new company that GM has invested in that makes ethanol from trash for about $1 per gallon. Check em' out...

http://www.coskata.com/

[WEBB]

you guys really need to do more research before you sign shit like this...i have been involved in oil and gas all my life, and for the last 12 years i have been resposible in some of the most important aspects of the industry....you guys are missing a lot of facts....trust me....canada has opened up the ground and we produce more oil a day than our country would need in a month....our prices are higher than yours for Gas...that kinda shoots your theory down...what you are going to do is drive prices up...yoou will let them drill more so thye have more, make more money and the cost will not come down...we also have a shortage of refineries to handle the oil...the ones we do have operate at 50% capacity cause they are so old and no one will pay to fix em, and even if they did there isnt enough man power to do it...canada has deregulated power as well, let the companies sell it and make it as they see ift, did this create a price cutting battle, no fukin way, the prices went through the roof instead....you guys dont have a clue to all the shit behind the scenes, fuk i only know a small chunk and i know this is not the answer...the only logical soultion to all this is shut down the roads and cars, all transports, everything for 3-6 days and watch the econmy take a serious hit...that will make big oil stand up and do something....these companies make more oil than we need, there is no oil shortage and think ing that there is and askin them to drill more to help is ludacris...honestly....they will drill millions of wells and get millions of bvarrels of oil and make millions in profit, and the price will not come down...please get you information more complete before you sign this shit...

[PEWN]

i agree with webb.... i think the only way that the gas prices will come down....will if some major companies short the market for oil... there are just to many high powered people getting rich off of this stuff....

[Amorphic]

you guys really need to do more research before you sign shit like this...i have been involved in oil and gas all my life, and for the last 12 years i have been resposible in some of the most important aspects of the industry....you guys are missing a lot of facts....trust me....canada has opened up the ground and we produce more oil a day than our country would need in a month....our prices are higher than yours for Gas...that kinda shoots your theory down...what you are going to do is drive prices up...yoou will let them drill more so thye have more, make more money and the cost will not come down...we also have a shortage of refineries to handle the oil...the ones we do have operate at 50% capacity cause they are so old and no one will pay to fix em, and even if they did there isnt enough man power to do it...canada has deregulated power as well, let the companies sell it and make it as they see ift, did this create a price cutting battle, no fukin way, the prices went through the roof instead....you guys dont have a clue to all the shit behind the scenes, fuk i only know a small chunk and i know this is not the answer...the only logical soultion to all this is shut down the roads and cars, all transports, everything for 3-6 days and watch the econmy take a serious hit...that will make big oil stand up and do something....these companies make more oil than we need, there is no oil shortage and think ing that there is and askin them to drill more to help is ludacris...honestly....they will drill millions of wells and get millions of bvarrels of oil and make millions in profit, and the price will not come down...please get you information more complete before you sign this shit...

well put.

[longhorn814]

you guys really need to do more research before you sign shit like this...i have been involved in oil and gas all my life, and for the last 12 years i have been resposible in some of the most important aspects of the industry....you guys are missing a lot of facts....trust me....canada has opened up the ground and we produce more oil a day than our country would need in a month....our prices are higher than yours for Gas...that kinda shoots your theory down...what you are going to do is drive prices up...yoou will let them drill more so thye have more, make more money and the cost will not come down...we also have a shortage of refineries to handle the oil...the ones we do have operate at 50% capacity cause they are so old and no one will pay to fix em, and even if they did there isnt enough man power to do it...canada has deregulated power as well, let the companies sell it and make it as they see ift, did this create a price cutting battle, no fukin way, the prices went through the roof instead....you guys dont have a clue to all the shit behind the scenes, fuk i only know a small chunk and i know this is not the answer...the only logical soultion to all this is shut down the roads and cars, all transports, everything for 3-6 days and watch the econmy take a serious hit...that will make big oil stand up and do something....these companies make more oil than we need, there is no oil shortage and think ing that there is and askin them to drill more to help is ludacris...honestly....they will drill millions of wells and get millions of bvarrels of oil and make millions in profit, and the price will not come down...please get you information more complete before you sign this shit...

good to see ya Webb, its good to have another person involved in the oil&gas industry on here..I dont think there has been a refinery build in the last 20 years. Even if we could start exploring for hydrocarbons tomorrow in the eastern gulf or Alaska, it will be 10 years before a drop of oil hits the market!! Im watching the news and congress has been investigating of there has been price fixing going on..how stupid is congress?? There is no price fixing..there are numerous variable that control the price of oil. Sure the price is high now and the oil companies are making record profits and their employees are benefiting from it..however there have also been the times where oil was so low..nothing they could do was economic and all sorts of people lost their jobs..the oil industry has been traditionally cyclical, however this time its not showing any signs of receding. If you dont like the prices, trade in your car, boat, whatever..carpool, take public transportation, ride a bike!! Just be glad you dont live in the EU, where you'd probably be paying over $10/gallon for gas!!

[DSM4Life]

I heard a lot has to do with lack of refinerys.

[RuhlFreak55]

especially the diesel market has alot to do with refinery capacity.....there aren't as many refinery's that can handle the distillates used for diesel....not to mention there is a very very very strong rest of world demand for diesel.

also we don't have a whole lot of capacity immediately to increase capacity worldwide.....yea the saudis have some extra, but it's all sour crude.....and there are like literally two refineries in the world that can handle that shit.

[Tesla]

I respectfully disagree with Webb. An increase in domestic production will keep much, much more money in the U.S. economy, thus working to grow the U.S. economy as a whole, thus increasing the total purchasing power of the average U.S. citizen.

Plus, this is not just an issue of paying less at the pump. This is also an issue of national security. Yes, even the security of Canada. Whenever people in the U.S. fill up their tanks with gas, they are essentially sending U.S. dollars to the middle east and to Venezuela. These are countries that are not exactly our best of buddies.

[Gators]

I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, but when the price of crude pretty much has doubled (or close to it) then that WILL drive the cost of gasoline up. I've heard that the announcement of the drilling will cause the speculators (big part of the problem) to lay off the rampant buying (think i have that phrased right) and drop the cost of crude immediately. Also, i've heard that it can be done much faster than 10 years, much faster, and if our idiotic gov't could have foreseen this (it ain't rocket science), like they're ELECTED to do, then we could already be pulling our own oil. To me, part of the issue is telling Chavez, Mexico, the Middle east, and others to piss off, we have our own supply, and GET FREAKING BUSY w/ alternative sources.

Nice post Tesla

[RuhlFreak55]

I respectfully disagree with Webb. An increase in domestic production will keep much, much more money in the U.S. economy, thus working to grow the U.S. economy as a whole, thus increasing the total purchasing power of the average U.S. citizen.

Plus, this is not just an issue of paying less at the pump. This is also an issue of national security. Yes, even the security of Canada. Whenever people in the U.S. fill up their tanks with gas, they are essentially sending U.S. dollars to the middle east and to Venezuela. These are countries that are not exactly our best of buddies.

it's a global economy now....all this domestic stupidity will only keep us down in the long run

[WEBB]

you guys think you can drill 100 wells overnight and then just put it in your car...its not a matter of finding it...its the refining process that is killing us right now...we have lots of oil and gas but we cant get it refined....you can disagree with me all you want but i am just wondering what your background is...Longhorn and i have a tonne of experience and are basically at thr front right now...even if they drilled 100 wells tomorrow and they were the best wells in the world and produced a million barrels of oil a day, how would you refine it and get it to your car....you cant and thats what you fail to see, just cause you have it doesnt mean you can use, instead you sit on it and make squat and its actually a lose...compnaies are only producing what they can sell, why sit on it when you cant make anything off it, might as well leave it in the ground...they have already increased drilling in the US, hell i am looking at moving to colorado to run some big projects, but it will be a very long time before it gets to you and i...also where i live is one of the largest gas finds in the world...now all the US companies up here could have kept going and moved 300miles west to Alasaka and drilled but the foulnd it in canada and will export it from here...why you ask, cost...its cheaper up here to pull it outta the ground...there are just to many factors you dont even know about and its just not as simple as drilling more holes in the ground...trust me man....

[WEBB]

oh and if you wanna know why its so easy over seas...it cause when it comes outta the ground over ther you can lmost put it right in your car...the refining process and cleaning needed is minimal compared to ours over here...also it basically jumps outta the ground while here we need to mine it, pump it and do al sorts of shit to even get it...and it aint cheap to do and no holes in the USs will make a difference....sorry, but you should really reconsider your idea....

[Gators]

it's a global economy now....all this domestic stupidity will only keep us down in the long run

auh, that's why you press forward RAPIDLY w/ Alt. sources. I guess 'domestic stupidity' means being stupid and not drilling our own MASSIVE reserves, instead funding our enemies?

[g0dsend]

We are saving our supply, I dont think we are even touching the oil I heard was in pennsylvania, and we arnt really using much of the oil in alaska. With this being said, we are sitting on a fortune and later down the road when the middle eastern countries become low, how ever many years that may be 100, 200? We would still have our virgin land.

[WEBB]

i do kinda agree with with you Godsend, but its not a good idea...also your gas and shit in Alaska is being sucked out from under your feet by the compnaies up in my town..trust me i am setting up the facilities as we speak....there is a lot of shore and that will remain untapped till they open up the ocean and good luck being around for that...also keeping it in the ground is good for you guys, when you guys finally decide to use it and get it out w will be long gone adn so will the use of Oil as fuel...haha...seriously though there is more than enough right now, just no place to clean it up and sell it...

[RuhlFreak55]

auh, that's why you press forward RAPIDLY w/ Alt. sources. I guess 'domestic stupidity' means being stupid and not drilling our own MASSIVE reserves, instead funding our enemies?

global economy.....we have no "enemies"

[RuhlFreak55]

i do kinda agree with with you Godsend, but its not a good idea...also your gas and shit in Alaska is being sucked out from under your feet by the compnaies up in my town..trust me i am setting up the facilities as we speak....there is a lot of shore and that will remain untapped till they open up the ocean and good luck being around for that...also keeping it in the ground is good for you guys, when you guys finally decide to use it and get it out w will be long gone adn so will the use of Oil as fuel...haha...seriously though there is more than enough right now, just no place to clean it up and sell it...

anyone who watches CNBC on a regular basis should be well aware of this

[wilson9d]

i say we start burning the worlds Orphaned children and starving people for fuel.