ya im 5 -9 194, i was 208 but stopped taking creatin and dropped all that weight....body fat is around 15 percent or so......im 21 been lifting hard for about 10 months befor that it was off an on for about 5 years with no more than two months off....so you suggest taking the omnevol only and not the extreme tren? which is less potent, cuz id rather take that first then take the other one later, you know? I can diet clean when i want to, so im going to have a month free here after fourth of july so im going to hit it hard and get er done