Here I go - First Cycle, test only

[mperk]

Well, lets say this... I rack my needles up for the whole week in one shot, so they are sitting in a bag with alcohol swabs ready to roll. I have the mornings before work to myself, as well as saturday morning, so thats all the time I really need. As for disposal- I have a tide bottle I cram everything in and when it is full I drop it off at a local place that does sharps disposal. As long as you keep track of your sh*t its no big deal. Besides, your talking like 5 a day (aside from filling up the weeks supply, which I do sat morning). So far tren only rocks. My muscles feel harder for a longer time after I work them out, and pump up like crazy at the gym. The sleep thing is the only annoying thing thus far, but as I said, a mild sleep aid will take care of that. Thanks again for the kind words guys.

S

Hey Sdizzle - great to read up on your trek again. Glad to hear it's going well. I am going to finish a 3 mo diet and cut to get my bf daown and then follow you into my first cycle for growth - can't wait - it will be early summer. What doe the wife say? she must have noticed the change in your bod. Good luck buddy!

[Boochan]

Just read the whole thread. Nice job.

Sounds like you did your homework well before starting. Did you do all your research here or were there other resources you used?

[zartan]

good thread, thanks for the info.

[SdiZZle]

Yo dudes I am back. Getting lean and mean as of late. I have been rocking a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet and shredding off Bodyfat. Getting pretty low and holding 170 lbs. If anyone whants to PM me with help, I have lost touch with some friends in my area, and I would like to make new friends. Infer from that what you will. If you read my thread you will see I like to home brew my own wine and beer, so yeast powder is a must!

Any who, still around. If you dudes want any info on ketogenic diets (which people on this site seem to think are hard to maintain and don't work, both of which are not true) hit me up. I have a lot of info. Lyle McDonald had some awesome books you might want to check out too, The Ketogenic Diet, and Ultimate Diet 2.0 . So I am back for a minute, just trying to get lean this summer to prove I can do it, then bulk back up next winter.

[mperk]

Oh man U rock - can't believe that crazy ass transformation! Welocome back.

[ghettoboyd]

ive been wondering where you have been. loved your thread. you look great man holy shit! hope you post more often

[conehead]

well im going 2 start my cycle after christmas ,ive been training for 6 months now ,im going to take test-e for 12wks an 20mg of nova,ive been told to wait untill ive maxed out on natural ,but i cant wait that long ,im just going to jump in the deep end an take it from there.ill be doing my cycle an eat well an wen im finished ill keep the eatin clean .im 27 5 ft 11 an 11 stone 7lbs ,im hopin to put the same on as yourself .any tips

[SdiZZle]

the one and only tip- which you hear all over but never really hear- Diet, diet, diet, diet. This shit is SERIOUSLY 85% diet, 15% working out. Think of all the dudes you see AL THE TIME at the gym that never look any different. They go for years, and they push weight, but never change. That is because they only have 15% of it figured out. I write down everything I eat and lift, but mostly eat. I just write grams of Protien - Fat - Carbs and do the math myself on Kcals. The gear is also about 35% (135% total with chemical enhancement). Start a log on EVERYTHING you eat, do it religiously. Do it as if it was just as important as finding time to hit the gym almost everyday (it is in fact much more important). If you truely gain control of diet, I feel anything is attainable. Thanks for all the support guys.

[SdiZZle]

Here's the pics in JPG form so people can get at them easier. I have to say that is a pretty good deal in 11 months!

[flacked]

Been creeping these forums for a number of months now but I had to register just to congratulate the thread starter. Absolutely impressive and incredible, and I can relate to your story in alot of ways (without the awesome transformation lol).

Read this thing for about an hour and I'm going to bookmark it so I can read it again later. Inspiring!

[mperk]

Here's the pics in JPG form so people can get at them easier. I have to say that is a pretty good deal in 11 months!

you sure those are the same guy? J/K - great work bro - glad you posted those 2 together! and great note above too - it is so much about the diet - wish I'd realized that a few years back - o well better late than never!

[SdiZZle]

flacked- thanks man, made some rookie mistakes, but I think I got more right then wrong so far. I have really amassed a ton of info about diet and fitness that will help me for the rest of my life. Perk- always good to hear from you my man, and good luck in all you do (if your wife knows or not).

[SdiZZle]

My pipe dream is to do a show as maybe a middleweight. Gain like 10+ lbs lean this winter and cut up again and try to hit 176 really shredded. Thats the pipe dream. Or it was. It seems like maybe I could make it happen if I really get after it.

[ghettoboyd]

sdizzle, did u end up cycleing the tren that u brewed by itself? if so,im curious of how long and what did u thinck of it.

[ghettoboyd]

also, i am definnetly intrested in what your diet looked like. i am currently cutting, i can use any and all info you have time to provide. i am a sponge.......thx bro

[mperk]

My pipe dream is to do a show as maybe a middleweight. Gain like 10+ lbs lean this winter and cut up again and try to hit 176 really shredded. Thats the pipe dream. Or it was. It seems like maybe I could make it happen if I really get after it.

Seems like more than a pipe dream - you are in great shape - really nice to see - i am inspired to give it a go again. I'm very consistant about the workouts - love that- I'm addicted to the iron, but the diet is a tough thing to change. i did real well a few months ago but i have a HUGE sweet tooth! So this week I'm goining to Vegas with the wife - a few days of debauchery- but after that I'm back on the wagon! BTW - I'm going to check out the Golds there (belong to a small one here) I imagine that might be inspiring too - from what i've heard - guys as big as houses! LOL

Anyways glad to hear your're thinking of doing a comp - should be lots of fun & good goal to shoot for.

Enjoy the summer, dude!

[SdiZZle]

Yo perk, thats where jay cutler works out, and a lot of real deal dudes, so that should be awesome! As far as a low carb sweet treat try this- heavy cream (0g carbs) low carb choc protien powder (maybe 1.5g carbs) immitation vianilla extract (0 g carbs, some alcohol) and iced coffee- its a low carb, high protien high fat cafe' mocha- tastes awesome when your sweet tooth kicks in!

[SdiZZle]

As I have like 20 PM's regarding my diet I will post the basics here and people can refer to this. I have read a lot of books regarding nutrition and diet, 2 of which I found to be AWESOME - both by Lyle McDonald
The Keytogenic Diet
The Ultimate Diet 2.0

I have modified/blended the 2 diets as it seems to work very well for me. Here is an outline- I will start with weds as that is when my "week" starts (for school and work reasons). All macros will be Pro. - Fat. - Carb

Weds- LOW Kcal- 150g - 90g - <20g = 1450 kcal approx.
Workout- Full body glycogen depletion - 10 x 20 (thats right) PER bodypart
examples 10 x 20 leg press, stiff dead lift, chins, bent rows, calf raises, shoulder press, crunches
5 x 20 bench, incline, curls, close grip bench
all exercises should be at 60-70% 1RM
this takes amost 2 to 2 1/2 hours and KICKS YOU F_IN ASS but totally depletes your glycogen stores and sets you up for serious fat burning.

Thurs - LOW 150g - 90g - <20g
Workout - 30 min cardio (HIIT) 6am
30 min cardio 2pm (3.5 mile run)

Fri - Medium Kcal - 160g - 125g - <20g = 1850 kcal approx
Workout- same as above

Saturday- LOW kcal 150g - 90g - <20g
Workout - 6 mile AM run (takes me 51 minutes now)

Sunday- Further glycogen depletion- eat 50g carbs EARLY (set alarm for 6am, eat a big bowl of cheerio's go back to sleep) hit the gym 2 hours later. Right befor gym I have a shake with a banana, choc whey and oats. This shifts me out of ketogenic state for SUPER DEPLETION - 8am gym 3 x 12 every bodypart (60-80% 1RM) this drives you muscle glycogen down to AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, now, let the fun begin! You need a serious amount of carbs today, shoot for 1000g (that alone is 4000 kcal). you still need you 150 g P (600 kcal) and low fat (<50g). try to stay away from fructose as it will replenish liver glycogen more so then muscle. I start high GI and don't worry about fat early (your body is still in a slight ketogenic state and will use the fat for energy as it shuttles the carbs to glycogen synth.) Think doughnuts, chocolate, pancakes w/ syrup go nuts. Around 2 or 3pm I shift to low GI carbs, big bowls of pasta, wheat breads, sweet potato, ect. No other exercise today. let your muscles swell with sugar and water, stay away from the scale unless you want a shock. You can slam on 10 lbs today pretty easy, but it is all water. DRINK GALLONS! Glycogen sucks a lot of water into your muscle, if your not hitting the stage, drink like crazy (if you are look up water manipulation, this diet alone is 80% of it).

Mon- Carbs AM (I don't log this day, it is an extension of the carb load, so I don't have exact numbers for you. You could tweak this day for results- High carb/ cal for anabolism/growth, low carb/cal for shredding. I go bak and forth to keep my body guessing and play it by "feel") This is HIT day. HEAVY weights. I do 3 x 3-6 at 80-90% 1RM per bodypart. you need 4-5min rest per set so superset 3 exercises at a time and you can get this done in 1 1/2 hrs or so. IF YOU NOTICE I do full body workouts 3 times per week. this is for my diet and I will probably go back to a more traditional routine this fall, but I am seeing good gains this way. rea around, there are a lot of good reasons to do full body workouts out there. After this ANABOLIC workout- insulin spike (think snickers) and thats it for carbs (about 2pm). switch to protien and keep fat low this PM

Tues - Rest and grow (for the most part) I eat as follows
160g - 125g - <20g = 1850 kcal give or take. Around 9pm I do 45min cardio to deplete my liver glycogen and get set up for full body depletion on weds.

back to the top!



for me personally I am losing about 1 to 1.5 lbs BODY FAT and maintaining my weight. I weight 170 lbs (except sun/mon like 176lbs) and every week notice changes. This may be veins on my lower stomach, veins on my lats, more muscularity, veins on my forhead! more definition ect. each week something new appears. Slow and steady wins the race!

SUPPS- I run an ECA weds through sat(bought seperately at my pharm.) 25mg E/200mg C/ 81mg A I take 3 g glutamine at bedtime (spikes growth hormone which is supposed to burn fat while you sleep). I take creatine on carb up day and monday pre workout. Thats it. (oh yeah, a little prop too)

[mperk]

SDizzle-

Thanks for the great post - TONS of useful info - i think I will have to get those McDonald books! Even if I don't read them - good fiber.....LOL

[thetank]

holy ****in crap man..i am beyond impressed. youve gotten youself in some sick ****in shape dude you should be proud...a change like that is rarely seen. keep doing what you are doing man!!
peace
tank

[flacked]

Again great information on the diet. Any losses in strength? And you say you're losing 1 to 1.5 pounds fat. Is that per week?

Also you mentioned you made some rookie mistakes first time around? Care to share with the rest of us rookies what those mistakes were?

One more question. I believe I read somewhere that you said you were popping 20mg nolva ED. Was this throughout your entire cycle or just during signs of PCT?

[ghettoboyd]

thnx for the info sdizzle, i am on the right track, exept i need to cut the cals and protien a bit. i already do the full body workouts 4 time a week (cardio too) and your right thay r a killer.i carb cycle also but maybee im still taking in to many. did you lose any muscle with such low protien and cals? thanx for your time, boyd

[SdiZZle]

1 to 1.5 body fat per week. My strength has stayed up as I employ HIT training (like 90% 1RM for 3 to 6 reps, 3 or 4 WORK sets) per bodypart. I always try to put just a little more weight/reps on on HIT days on monday to give my muscles a novel stimulus and maintain if not improve strength and muscle mass. It's so wierd, I feel so bloated and crappy after carb days, then weds (today) I kick the crap out of myself and feel sucked out. Lean and mean. Must be the wrestler in me, I love feeling sucked out. Awesome.

From the books I have read 150g protien is about the most anyone needs unless you are on enough AAS for a horse ( IE the pro's). If your not on insane amounts of gear your body cannot use all that protien and it is hard on your kidneys/digestive system to process it all. I stay around 150g, maybe 140, maybe 120g protein, and shoot for the rest fat. I aim for about 1350 - 1500 kcals on hard cutting days (weds, thurs, sat). If you have your carbs below 50g you should be ok, but at that point it doesn't take much to get below 20g, so I figure why not.

[*RAGE*]

kid keep up the good work bro. later

[mattj255]

Awesome results mate.

Keep us posted

[ghettoboyd]

thx bro,cant argue with those results. apreciate the info.

["Maximus"]

Great read through your thread, man! I'm not into AAS yet, as I'm trying to get my diet regime/habits internalized as good as sleeping/resting is to the body. Once I get that part of my life tackled down, I will probably use your experience for my first Test only cycle in the future. Great job dude!

Max

[mperk]

Hey SDizzle;
JUst ordered those books from Amazon - hope they come soon - I
'm really stoked to get on it. I'm feeling pretty good about my gains in the last years but am now up to 190 from 176 4 months ago - some is muscle for sure but my abs are starting to fade so I'd better get on the wagon again.

2 more weeks at home and off to Mexico for 10 days - hope the hotel has a gym as well as the "all you can eat" buffet! hahahaha

Later bro.

[Bad Viking]

Impressive read sdizzle,and really nice job...

[nath78]

Rock on son!!****in awsome improvement!!

[honda450]

Hats off to you man, ****in unreal improvement. Lookin good buddy, keep it up.

[ravanA]

so did u do that tren cycle? what were the results?

[Steve630]

Get post, how's things going?

[Steve630]

Sorry, ment great, lol..

[Choppers]

Wow I'm seriously impressed. Just scan read the whole article and how nice to see a dedicated log of exercise, nutrition, AAS and the transformation was awesome.

As someone starting out this is a real inspiration. Thanks and good luck for future plans.

Awesome pics too. Hats off.

[sbath1]

talk about motivation....very impressed

[CBGB]

I am completly impressed with the amount of info I have learned from this thread. I have been searching this site for everything I thought I would need, but reading your story has help me decide what I need to do more than anything else. Thanks, keep up the good work!!!!

[Dinosaur]

welcome new look guy.

[mperk]

sdizzle is gone - but what a great thread, eh? - totally inspired me too!

[CBGB]

It's good to hear that if it is done right, good things happen.