A nation at war, but kept clear of combat

[Panzerfaust]

You know if you don't go around Nation building, you wouldn't have to worry about troop strengths and how to "Win"...LMAO @ anyone who truly believes that America is there to "Win" this farce of a war.

You don't "win" when you name an invisible enemy "war on terror". lol "War on Terror" in lamens terms means, "endless war"...anyone can be labeled a "terrorist"..even you and I.

Stupid ****ing people.

[B.E.N.]

Bro...to have an opinion is one thing. To call someone a 'stupid ****ing' person because of their opinion is another. Quite silly and rather ironic considering that is why many wars begin.

'War on drugs' seems to be working...your not naming sources in your posts right? Or buying an 8-ball at Walgreens...

Seems to me that there are quite a few more terrorists arrest than terrorist bombing in the World.

I respect your opinion but disagree.

[gixxerboy1]

Bro...to have an opinion is one thing. To call someone a 'stupid ****ing' person because of their opinion is another. Quite silly and rather ironic considering that is why many wars begin.

'War on drugs' seems to be working...your not naming sources in your posts right? Or buying an 8-ball at Walgreens...
Seems to me that there are quite a few more terrorists arrest than terrorist bombing in the World.

I respect your opinion but disagree.

The war on drugs is working? Yes you cant buy it legally but you couldnt before the so called war. The war on drugs has cost how much money? How many people are in prison for it? And drugs are not any harder to get then before the war on them started. So its working to well

[Panzerfaust]

Bro...to have an opinion is one thing. To call someone a 'stupid ****ing' person because of their opinion is another. Quite silly and rather ironic considering that is why many wars begin.

'War on drugs' seems to be working...your not naming sources in your posts right? Or buying an 8-ball at Walgreens...

Seems to me that there are quite a few more terrorists arrest than terrorist bombing in the World.

I respect your opinion but disagree.

I understand but standby my opinion that anyone who thinks the US is their ti "win" the "war" is a ****ing stupid ignorant bastard!

The War on Drugs is a ****ing joke too...but that is a totally separate discussion and another farce created by the gov't.

[thegodfather]

Bro...to have an opinion is one thing. To call someone a 'stupid ****ing' person because of their opinion is another. Quite silly and rather ironic considering that is why many wars begin.

'War on drugs' seems to be working...your not naming sources in your posts right? Or buying an 8-ball at Walgreens...

Seems to me that there are quite a few more terrorists arrest than terrorist bombing in the World.

I respect your opinion but disagree.

Few of the Schedule I-III substances have anywhere near the deadly potential as Alcohol and Tobacco... Explain why those substances are scheduled and Alcohol&Tobacco are not? Then you can answer your question about why the war on drugs even exists.

[B.E.N.]

Few of the Schedule I-III substances have anywhere near the deadly potential as Alcohol and Tobacco... Explain why those substances are scheduled and Alcohol&Tobacco are not? Then you can answer your question about why the war on drugs even exists.

I agree money is a factor. Factor!

But everyone is down on Bush and the current cabinet for doing something. It is a lot easier to worry about approval ratings than it is to take action. If that is the only thing that mattered then the govt. would just pass out cotton candy.

If you don't think the US is there to win ask any troop. They believe. Hell it is our Congressman handicapping their effort. Same thing as Vietnam...except the hippies are liberals now.

Preventive measures are not always the most popular or easiest but they are the best in the long run.

[thegodfather]

Preventive measures are not always the most popular or easiest but they are the best in the long run.

'Preventetive Measures' are not authorized in our Constitution. Thats a fact. Also, wars that are not declared by Congress, are illegal. You need a Declaration of War, so the rebuttal that Congress "authorized" the war by approving funds for it is void. It doesn't matter, they didnt have the authority to do that under the Constitution. Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution... Everyone look it up please...

[B.E.N.]

'Preventetive Measures' are not authorized in our Constitution. Thats a fact. Also, wars that are not declared by Congress, are illegal. You need a Declaration of War, so the rebuttal that Congress "authorized" the war by approving funds for it is void. It doesn't matter, they didnt have the authority to do that under the Constitution. Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution... Everyone look it up please...

Who said they or anything else was or was not authorized. The war IS...arguing why or by who is irrelevant at this point.

The war is/was necessary to wipe out terrorist cells then, now, and in the future. Do it right now so you don't have to fix it or do it over again. Preventive measures...

[thegodfather]

Who said they or anything else was or was not authorized. The war IS...arguing why or by who is irrelevant at this point.

The war is/was necessary to wipe out terrorist cells then, now, and in the future. Do it right now so you don't have to fix it or do it over again. Preventive measures...

You're terribly uninformed... There was never a single shred of evidence to suggest that there was a single terrorist cell within Iraq. Iraq was not ever a state sponsor of "terrorism" and Saddam Hussein actually persecuted Al-Qaeda. So you can join our President in searching for endless reasons and justifications for going to war with Iraq, all of them baseless and unsubstantiated. The war with Afghanistan I supported, as we should have gone in to get the person we suspected was behind the 9/11 attacks.

As far as the authorization goes. You need to read the Constitution of the country you live in. Congress is only authorized to declare war on another country if the United States (homeland) national security is being directly threatened (I.E.-troops massing on our borders, warships inbound to the US homeland, bombs being dropped, inbound fighter planes, or a declaration of war on us from another country). The pre-emptive warfare doctrine is nowhere to be found in the Constitution, therefore making it an illegitimate and ILLEGAL policy. It is hard, and I would say pretty much impossible, to make any sort of legitimate argument that Saddam Hussein and his very weak army presented any real and viable threat to the homeland of the United States. Perhaps he posed a threat regionally, but then again that is absolutely NONE OF OUR FUC*ING BUSINESS.

It's a shame to see how out of touch Americans really are with the ideas of the founding fathers and the ideas of liberty&freedom (libertarianism). Your responses to me sound exactly like the garbage the American people get spoon fed by Fox News at 6pm. Do you have any independent free thoughts that you formed on your own? Have you done any real research into the topic(reading the news paper is not research)? Do you even know anything about the countries we invaded, the number of lives lost, etc? My guess is that you do not.