one8nine's opinion on pct (links to side effect control too)

[peachfuzz]

Been using toremifene for about 2 years now myself. I thought it was old news and wondered why it hasnt caught on by now. I love it. No negative side effects at all for me. On a mg for mg basis its not stronger than nolva. Being cousins they are very similar, however side effects are milder with torem. raloxifene is another SERM that will become more popular very shortly.

Here are some links on torem if anyone is interested. In short, Toremifene is less toxic than Nolva and better on bone density and lipids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.asco.org/portal/site/ASCO...stractID=20282

[Swifto]

Been using toremifene for about 2 years now myself. I thought it was old news and wondered why it hasnt caught on by now. I love it. No negative side effects at all for me. On a mg for mg basis its not stronger than nolva. Being cousins they are very similar, however side effects are milder with torem. raloxifene is another SERM that will become more popular very shortly.

Here are some links on torem if anyone is interested. In short, Toremifene is less toxic than Nolva and better on bone density and lipids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.asco.org/portal/site/ASCO...stractID=20282

Torm seems to be the ideal choice of SERM for PCT, whilst Ralox seems to b the ideal choice for fighting gyno (which is what I'm using now).

Another thing to note about Nolva over Clomid is, most of the studies done on males show results on LH/FSH/T increasing after 3-12 months. Whilst results on Clomid are far quicker (2-6 weeks).

IMHO, Torm should be used, if not Clomid (low dose), if your one of the minority that gets sides at any dose, Nolva or Ralox.

It should be noted there is far more research on Clomid (males) and its an Endo's first weapon of attack when treating hypogonadal males.

[one8nine]

Torm seems to be the ideal choice of SERM for PCT, whilst Ralox seems to b the ideal choice for fighting gyno (which is what I'm using now).

Another thing to note about Nolva over Clomid is, most of the studies done on males show results on LH/FSH/T increasing after 3-12 months. Whilst results on Clomid are far quicker (2-6 weeks).

IMHO, Torm should be used, if not Clomid (low dose), if your one of the minority that gets sides at any dose, Nolva or Ralox.

It should be noted there is far more research on Clomid (males) and its an Endo's first weapon of attack when treating hypogonadal males.

i like you swiftofulla good shit!

the probloem i see with those is popularity, which dictates availability
everybody on this board could get clomid/nolva from 20 different places, ive never once seen the other two

[Swifto]

i like you swiftofulla good shit!

the probloem i see with those is popularity, which dictates availability
everybody on this board could get clomid/nolva from 20 different places, ive never once seen the other two

Woops! It was meant to be a PM. Ha Ha...

[one8nine]

Keep this to yourself please.

haha well you might wanna edit it out then cause i pimp this pct thread link all over the board

[Swifto]

haha well you might wanna edit it out then cause i pimp this pct thread link all over the board

Meant to be a PM.

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