wow this thread is packed with information guys, thanks alot! I am so glad I joined. Sounds like I will be picking up some prop for me then; that info on test prop by one8nine is huge and the injection sites mentioned by boxer and one8nine was a huge help as well. Yeah, I am choosing test prop because of the fast acting ester: not so fast like test susp i have to inject 2-3x a day, but enough straight forward test to work fast unlike enanth. Thanks again guys