Cycle kickstart: A50 vs dbol need advice on pro and cons

**football3355** · 08-17-2008, 02:02 AM

Hey everyone, I know this may seem like I switch around vividly, but after realizing how scarce and expensive Halo is, I have decided not to try and run it. I plan on running Test Prop with either dbol or anadrol. I have always had a vs mind set about these because I have no clue which is better for strength, mass, and retaining gains when followed by an injectable (prop). Could someone out there that has used both for the application I plan on using them for please tell me which is better for the above? Thanks alot

**stallion_1** · 08-17-2008, 02:16 AM

there was just a thread 'bout drol vs. dbol

id use both like this

week 1-6 50 mg drol ed
week 1-6 20 mg dbol ed

**boxer1** · 08-17-2008, 03:01 AM

you don't need to kickstart with prop, most people kickstart long estered compounds because they can take 4-5 weeks to get stable blood levels. With prop shot ed blood levels are stable after 1 week, dbol or drol is a bad choice to run with prop imo. If you are set on using one i'd go with the dbol @ 50mg/day for 4 weeks

PT · 08-17-2008, 03:38 AM

there both great for mass and strength. personally i perfer d-bol but everyone has there own preferance. just pick one since there semi-similar and run with it. if you do d-bol i would start out at 35mgs ed for the 1st week then raise it up 10mgs if you want after that. have you cycled before? what are your stats?

**Baron** · 08-17-2008, 09:36 AM

imo dbol is nothing compared to drol when it comes to gaining mass. Drol just has some nasty sides.

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 09:48 AM

**football3355** · 08-17-2008, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by boxer1

you don't need to kickstart with prop, most people kickstart long estered compounds because they can take 4-5 weeks to get stable blood levels. With prop shot ed blood levels are stable after 1 week, dbol or drol is a bad choice to run with prop imo. If you are set on using one i'd go with the dbol @ 50mg/day for 4 weeks

besides that I don't really NEED dbol with prop since prop works fast, why shouldnt I use dbol with it?

**boxer1** · 08-17-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

besides that I don't really NEED dbol with prop since prop works fast, why shouldnt I use dbol with it?

its not that dbol shouldn't be used with prop, the weight that you gain with the dbol will be mostly water and youll drop most of it when you stop taking it. Its ok to use as a kickstart on a bulker with long esters as the weight gain can help keep you motivated while waiting for the injectables to kick in. With prop youll start gaining after 1 week and in my experience if your diets right the weight that you gain will be quality lean mass with v little water retention so why spoil that with a compound thats gonna make you bloat then lose most of it. I'm on a sust, deca cycle at the mo and was gonna use dbol 1st 4 weeks like you as i've loads of the things lying about and looking for excuse to use em, but as the sust is fast acting i decided against it. At the end of the day its your call fella, what you looking to get out of the cycle?

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by boxer1

its not that dbol shouldn't be used with prop, the weight that you gain with the dbol will be mostly water and youll drop most of it when you stop taking it. Its ok to use as a kickstart on a bulker with long esters as the weight gain can help keep you motivated while waiting for the injectables to kick in. With prop youll start gaining after 1 week and in my experience if your diets right the weight that you gain will be quality lean mass with v little water retention so why spoil that with a compound thats gonna make you bloat then lose most of it. I'm on a sust, deca cycle at the mo and was gonna use dbol 1st 4 weeks like you as i've loads of the things lying about and looking for excuse to use em, but as the sust is fast acting i decided against it. At the end of the day its your call fella, what you looking to get out of the cycle?

if you take an ai correctly you shouldnt gain water at all
youre saying you should only use drugs that bloat you with other drugs that bloat you? ha.

BG · 08-17-2008, 01:20 PM

I had some BP problems when using drol.

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I had some BP problems when using drol.

drol produces more red blood cells right?
think thats why?

**football3355** · 08-17-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by boxer1

its not that dbol shouldn't be used with prop, the weight that you gain with the dbol will be mostly water and youll drop most of it when you stop taking it. Its ok to use as a kickstart on a bulker with long esters as the weight gain can help keep you motivated while waiting for the injectables to kick in. With prop youll start gaining after 1 week and in my experience if your diets right the weight that you gain will be quality lean mass with v little water retention so why spoil that with a compound thats gonna make you bloat then lose most of it. I'm on a sust, deca cycle at the mo and was gonna use dbol 1st 4 weeks like you as i've loads of the things lying about and looking for excuse to use em, but as the sust is fast acting i decided against it. At the end of the day its your call fella, what you looking to get out of the cycle?

Basically tons and tons of strength for baseball. I was going for a Halo/test prop cycle until I saw the pricetag on Halo and decided its not gunna happen with a college budget. I would use just test prop, but idk how much strength it gives you. My main goal is strength, but if weight increase comes with it, then idc.

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