what you guys think of running test E with tren A for 10 weeks for a bulk? reason being i just want to run one bulking cycle and one cutting cycle thats it.
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what you guys think of running test E with tren A for 10 weeks for a bulk? reason being i just want to run one bulking cycle and one cutting cycle thats it.
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why not prop/ace
or enan/enan
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He's 100 correct..keep esters the same bro...it'll be less of a headache.
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lol everybody says they just wanna run 1 or 2 cycles, then they're all hooked.Originally Posted by dynamite101
Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
yeah thats exactly what i said 12 years ago...LOLOLOL
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Yeah thats what i said too dynamite... All i wanted to do was put on 15lbs... 35lbs later... Im still going...
Do
Prop + Ace or
Enan + Enan
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Start the ace in week 4 and run it till 12. Go ed
Its much better in the long run to stay natural than to do 2 cycles.
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age:22
weight: 182
Height 5'10
Cycle exp: Was stupid and did sust and deca for about 3 weeks when i was young but stopped immediately when i did research.
Goals: Gain as much muscle as possible before cutting
2.5 years training
the enth/enth esters give me a lot more water retention right?
and ill probably be kickstarting with dbol from weeks 1-4 at 30mg day
PCT
nolvadex
Letro on hand
HCG(maybe)
Diet:
Breakfast: 2 whole eggs 4 egg whites, oatmeal
Lunch: Lean ground beef with veggies
2-3 hours later: 2 Chicken Breast with brown rice
2-3 hours later: 2 chicken breast with sweet potato
2-3 hours later: 2 chicken breast with sweet potato
2-3 hours later: 2 chicken breast with sweet potato
Last edited by dynamite101; 08-30-2008 at 09:18 PM.
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yeah they will but thats the price to pay for being a sissy about needles
if you have the balls to inject every day use test prop tren ace
imo you need more vegies and variety.
change up some chichens for some tuna once a day
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some of these dudes are experienced juicers, and they just wanna keep the steroid levels as stable as possible. but if u wanna run tren a with test e, there will be nothing wrong with that.
if u do run tren enth and test enth, ur gonna have to run test for at least 12 weeks since the tren enth will take at least 4-5 weeks to kick in and it needs to be ran longer. on the other hand, if u run tren ace and test enth u can run the test for 10 weeks and the tren a for 8 weeks which i think it is much better specially since the tren ace kicks in faster that allows u to run it for a shorter span of time.
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Again, i agree with 189... Short esters are the way to go...
My God! All you eat is chicken and sweet potatos! The breakfest is good, could be more specific overall though...
How many grams of oatmeal are you eating? I usually eat 80 every morning (dry weight)
Are you eating any beef or turkey? And instead of sweet potatos, maybe lentils, mixed veggies, barley?
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im not sissy from needles i dont mind the eod or ed injections. correct me if im wrong but i will keep more size gains from the short ester cycle rather than the long ester one and with the short ester cycle wont have to jump start with dbol? i freakin hate tuna, but i will add some more veggies for sure, maybe even some fruit. is the pct ok?
test prop weeks 1-10
tren a weeks 1-8
start pct 2 days after last test injection
20mg ed nolva 1-5 weeks
proviron or letro at 50 mg ed
HCG - what u guys think will i need it?
and should i run the ai throught out my cycle? or just keep for pct?
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Proviron is good for pct but I'd drop the letro(causes an estrogen rebound). Yes you need an AI on cycle, If you want you can run letrozole on cycle but at .25mg eod (not 50mg!). But do some research on letro first, there's a lot of debate as to weather it should be used as a first choice or last resort. check out one8nine's pct. Good insight!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354573
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weeks 1-10 75 mg test prop ed
weeks 1-8 75 mg tren a ed
llooks good or up the test dosage?
and glute injection ed should be fine?
Last edited by dynamite101; 08-31-2008 at 07:03 PM.
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looks good
letro on cycle
11-14 nolva 20/proviron 50 pct
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Glute injects ed are fine? Really? If so, that is very good news for me.
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was just thinking, my glute might get to sore with injecting it ed, letro on cycle wont inhibit gains gains right? and hey 189 do u think the hcg is really needed for this cycle or should i be ok with out it?
Last edited by dynamite101; 08-31-2008 at 07:30 PM.
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damn no i missed that good catch nitro!!
delts quads and glutes 6 day rotation
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it can if abused
but .25mg ed or oed is good
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u think the hcg is really needed for this cycle or should be ok with out it
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you never NEED hcg
but hcg always makes things easier
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Dammit niner!
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dont be a puswa shots make you stronger
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Puswa, I love it. I agree shots make you stronger and thats the way I look at it. Injections dont really bother me, but I have only done enanthate, and only in the glutes. It will just take a little getting used to
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can i pull both steroids into the same syringe and ject them at the same time or is it better to inject them seerately. and just to make sure this cycle will give more size gain than just a test e cycle with a kickstart of dbol?
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I am going to be running similar cycle in 2 months or so. I am going to combine both prop + tren in one needle. My rotations will be quads, glutes and delts.
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^^great call
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Yeah, you should get a lot better results without the bloat too. Keep mind this is all depending on diet so get that sh!t in check. So this is your first cycle done right and you're rolling with tren? Hope all goes well for you man, but I don't have balls for that.
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ya i heard the sides on tren are pretty bad, but i think im gonna give it a go and try to just tough it out.i work as a security guard so hopefully i dont get to aggressive and go on a rampage lol
Last edited by dynamite101; 09-01-2008 at 07:53 PM.
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anything i can take to prevent hairloss or acne?
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its funny you ask!
acne:
accutane handbook
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=78961
hairloss:
finastride, nizorol
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wtf thanks
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thats really really weird it got deleted from the board??
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try starting there?
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Yeah, thats a lot better bro. i wonder what happened to the other?
Oh well, you always have all the info somewhere lol. Thanks man...Nitro
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