Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
yeah i use venom hyperdrive, though i use a combo of things before i go, here's my pre-workout supplement list

2 caps of venom hyperdrive
chaos preworkout formula (mixture of several creatines and some other stuff)
5g glutamine
5g AAKG (alpha arginine ketoglutarate)
1200mg caffeine (closer to 2000mg if you add the caffeine in the chaos and venom to it)

sometimes i'll throw in some other stuff, oh yeah, and i'm on 160mcg of clenbuterol as well

really good preworkout stack, soon i'm gonna be adding amplifyO2 as well
160mcg's of clen and 1200mg of caffeine? are you trying to get a heart attack? you should never go over 400mg of caffeine or 120mcg of clen.
am i wrong about this?