when i was 15 (6months ago) i was benching 285 cleaning 240 and squatting 460, w/ out the juice! maybei should have entered some contests.......i also have a buddy who is about 16, 5'7, 180lbs, and benches 400lbs, juice or no juice its fucking amazing, (yes i saw it w/ my own eyes), but i think his daddy was mr. western america or something like that!