Beginner with no experiance,PLEASE HELP!!!

[BUYLONGTERM]

Dear God guys, STOP! If I was that guy asking questions and saw all the BULLSHIT in this thread, I'd never log on again. He wants solid adivce and telling him to take any type of steroid now is NOT good advice. He needs to work on his diet and train naturally for a few more years.

[Reed]

Dear God guys, STOP! If I was that guy asking questions and saw all the BULLSHIT in this thread, I'd never log on again. He wants solid adivce and telling him to take any type of steroid now is NOT good advice. He needs to work on his diet and train naturally for a few more years.

What I have been saying all along. Tell that to PrideFEDOR.

But your right, I'm done here and was immature

[Kratos]

here's the thing on dependence

a 120 pound guy is on the verge of starving all the time or he wouldn't be 120 lbs. He eats enough calories to maintain 120lbs, no more no less. So, he takes some steroids gets up to 130lbs. Now what? He eats enough to maintain 120lbs. His 130lb body uses more than a 120lb body does. So he goes up in weight but, goes down in weight over time. So he does another cycle to get back to 130. It's not healthy.

Guys who give good diet advise are hard to come by. No need to make enemies so soon. And, reed is huge in case you wanted to know.

[PrideFEDOR]

here's the thing on dependence

a 120 pound guy is on the verge of starving all the time or he wouldn't be 120 lbs. He eats enough calories to maintain 120lbs, no more no less. So, he takes some steroids gets up to 130lbs. Now what? He eats enough to maintain 120lbs. His 130lb body uses more than a 120lb body does. So he goes up in weight but, goes down in weight over time. So he does another cycle to get back to 130. It's not healthy.

Guys who give good diet advise are hard to come by. No need to make enemies so soon. And, reed is huge in case you wanted to know.

I see what u saying, but how come a guy who weights 250 lbs eats less than 120lbs guy and still able to keep up the weight ? Im telling u bro, I have a friend. I fed him nice , everything I ate- he ate and his total gain was 5 lbs when my was 22lbs. He gained 10 and lost 5 and I gained 30 and lost 7.

[legobricks]

I see what u saying, but how come a guy who weights 250 lbs eats less than 120lbs guy and still able to keep up the weight ? Im telling u bro, I have a friend. I fed him nice , everything I ate- he ate and his total gain was 5 lbs when my was 22lbs. He gained 10 and lost 5 and I gained 30 and lost 7.

And that is because GENETICS play a huge role. Just like i probably cant be an IFBB pro bodybuilder and you can, do you see what i mean? Everyones body is different and reacts differently no matter what supplements/illegal substances you take.

[PrideFEDOR]

And that is because GENETICS play a huge role. Just like i probably cant be an IFBB pro bodybuilder and you can, do you see what i mean? Everyones body is different and reacts differently no matter what supplements/illegal substances you take.

I agree with you LEGO In my respond to KRATOS i said the same thing . GENETICS ! Im not an advocate to give everyone steroids - no . HEalthy adults - YES ! 27 year old is an adult. 120lbs .........Well , its less than average , but he's not going to grow- neither his genetics or food help that much at his age. I dont know what REED thinks but for an average male to keep 120lbs body frame is impossible ( and to be healthy of course). I believe the smallest boxing weight category is 124lbs right now. And those dudes run around like ants hitting each other for 12 rounds without breathing hard. They dont walk around at that weight. In order to "eat" that weight for an average adult, one will end up with all kinds of stomach and intestines / gastro problems. Plus he had stuff on hand . Let him use those prohormones - even though its not a real thing, but it'll make him understand how cycling works. He also has PCT on hand which he can finish with. I dont think I said something that wasn't right imo.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I agree with you LEGO In my respond to KRATOS i said the same thing . GENETICS ! Im not an advocate to give everyone steroids - no . HEalthy adults - YES ! 27 year old is an adult. 120lbs .........Well , its less than average , but he's not going to grow- neither his genetics or food help that much at his age. I dont know what REED thinks but for an average male to keep 120lbs body frame is impossible ( and to be healthy of course). I believe the smallest boxing weight category is 124lbs right now. And those dudes run around like ants hitting each other for 12 rounds without breathing hard. They dont walk around at that weight. In order to "eat" that weight for an average adult, one will end up with all kinds of stomach and intestines / gastro problems. Plus he had stuff on hand . Let him use those prohormones - even though its not a real thing, but it'll make him understand how cycling works. He also has PCT on hand which he can finish with. I dont think I said something that wasn't right imo.

Have to be honest bro. He said he's been lifting for "about a year". I don't think it's genetics, I think it's lack of dedication! Lack of dedication to me means NO STEROIDS!!!!

[legobricks]

I agree with you LEGO In my respond to KRATOS i said the same thing . GENETICS ! Im not an advocate to give everyone steroids - no . HEalthy adults - YES ! 27 year old is an adult. 120lbs .........Well , its less than average , but he's not going to grow- neither his genetics or food help that much at his age. I dont know what REED thinks but for an average male to keep 120lbs body frame is impossible ( and to be healthy of course). I believe the smallest boxing weight category is 124lbs right now. And those dudes run around like ants hitting each other for 12 rounds without breathing hard. They dont walk around at that weight. In order to "eat" that weight for an average adult, one will end up with all kinds of stomach and intestines / gastro problems. Plus he had stuff on hand . Let him use those prohormones - even though its not a real thing, but it'll make him understand how cycling works. He also has PCT on hand which he can finish with. I dont think I said something that wasn't right imo.

Well i agree that you agree

He is an adult but for me im a firm believer in having a sound diet for growing first. Remember he is new with lifting, and most likely has a horrible diet.

It would be nice to see him come back here and post his diet tho so we can help him out.

[Kratos]

I agree with you LEGO In my respond to KRATOS i said the same thing . GENETICS ! Im not an advocate to give everyone steroids - no . HEalthy adults - YES ! 27 year old is an adult. 120lbs .........Well , its less than average , but he's not going to grow- neither his genetics or food help that much at his age. I dont know what REED thinks but for an average male to keep 120lbs body frame is impossible ( and to be healthy of course). I believe the smallest boxing weight category is 124lbs right now. And those dudes run around like ants hitting each other for 12 rounds without breathing hard. They dont walk around at that weight. In order to "eat" that weight for an average adult, one will end up with all kinds of stomach and intestines / gastro problems. Plus he had stuff on hand . Let him use those prohormones - even though its not a real thing, but it'll make him understand how cycling works. He also has PCT on hand which he can finish with. I dont think I said something that wasn't right imo.

I don't think you have enough info to say he isn't gonna grow. We haven't seen his diet or lifting routine yet. If he doesn't even have the knoledge to get real gear, why not try to fix his diet before he runs out and gets the real stuff? I'm glad your buddy had good results and kept the weight, and steroids can be a very useful tool. Lets take out the other variables first is what I'm saying. Gasto problems are unlikely...look what Michial Phelps eats. Genetics are important, but I don't think anybody has a genetic limit of 120 pounds.

[PrideFEDOR]

I don't think you have enough info to say he isn't gonna grow. We haven't seen his diet or lifting routine yet. If he doesn't even have the knoledge to get real gear, why not try to fix his diet before he runs out and gets the real stuff? I'm glad your buddy had good results and kept the weight, and steroids can be a very useful tool. Lets take out the other variables first is what I'm saying. Gasto problems are unlikely...look what Michial Phelps eats. Genetics are important, but I don't think anybody has a genetic limit of 120 pounds.

Kratos Phelps eats way more than most of us. I believe he said 6 or 7 meals a day. He's not 120lbs by any means either lol . I dont know how , but in a water even though u dont sweat at all , u lose so many calories - its unbelievable. I remember my mom was waiting for me on the outside of the Olimpic Reserve school with hot thermos of tea/coffee and big ass sanwiches because water makes u wanna eat like craaaaaaaaazy.

[Littlebudda]

I just want to know PLease Help