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    Lets hear your PCT recommendation dukkit

    You have to understand that Havoc is a steroidal AI and adding addition prescription strength AI will may lower my estrogen to much and cause the rebound effect. Hence why I left out a AI during PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Lets hear your PCT recommendation dukkit

    You have to understand that Havoc is a steroidal AI and adding addition prescription strength AI will may lower my estrogen to much and cause the rebound effect. Hence why I left out a AI during PCT
    like i said. im not talkin about estrogen here.
    but to get your LH pumping out test.

    Nolva - 40mg/day wk 1-2
    20mg/day wk 3-4

    Clomid - 100mg/day wk 1-2
    50mg/day wk 3-4

    plus HCG.

    this way youll be getting your HPTA into action (Clomid fights the negative feedback loop that estrogen has on your HPTA. which stimulates Test.) (Nolva raises serum levels of LH and such which raise test)

    so you comin at your HPTA in 2 different ways to get your test production back

    also... Clomd and Nolva DONT REDUCE estrogen. They just BLOCK it from binding and causing gyno symptoms. so you will still have the estrogen in your body to help with your gains. but it wont affect you by LOWERING the estro.

    and the HCG to stimulate your actual nuts a bit more

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    like i said. im not talkin about estrogen here.
    but to get your LH pumping out test.

    Nolva - 40mg/day wk 1-2
    20mg/day wk 3-4

    Clomid - 100mg/day wk 1-2
    50mg/day wk 3-4

    plus HCG.

    this way youll be getting your HPTA into action (Clomid fights the negative feedback loop that estrogen has on your HPTA. which stimulates Test.) (Nolva raises serum levels of LH and such which raise test)

    so you comin at your HPTA in 2 different ways to get your test production back

    also... Clomd and Nolva DONT REDUCE estrogen. They just BLOCK it from binding and causing gyno symptoms. so you will still have the estrogen in your body to help with your gains. but it wont affect you by LOWERING the estro.

    and the HCG to stimulate your actual nuts a bit more

    I dont feel Clomid is needed when using an AI. It doesnt hurt, but i dont see what Clomid does that Nolva and an AI doesnt.

    Not to mention HCG use on top.

    At the very least, i never take over 50mgs of Clomid. Anything more than that gives me sides like blurred vision.

    JMO!


    Ill be following along Reed! Looking forward to the end result!


    -WAR

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