deca and tren together

[wayne69]

whats up everyone?
im not really familiar with tren but i hear its a great product and i was wondering if you can run it with deca and test.i know u can run it with test but not sure about deca. so can yall fill me on this? thanks

[Big]

It can be done, but from experience there is really no reason to. I've never accomplished anything off of test/deca/tren that I couldn't have off of test/tren. perhaps if someone had joint problems a low dose of deca might be useful, otherwise I don't find it necessary with tren.

[wayne69]

would there be a big difference in gains if i used test and tren vs. test and deca.

[Big]

would there be a big difference in gains if i used test and tren vs. test and deca.

everyone is different, personally I have dryer gains from tren, but the key would be to find what works best for you.

[wayne69]

ok. ive heard before that gains from test and tren are easier to hold on to after coming off the cycle compared to test and deca. is that true?

[Big]

ok. ive heard before that gains from test and tren are easier to hold on to after coming off the cycle compared to test and deca. is that true?

I've never heard that.

[wayne69]

ok well maybe it was just talk cuz i heard some guys talkin bout it at the gym. could i do this BIG? run my test and deca and then use tren for the last few weeks to help harden up and get some lean gains

[Big]

ok well maybe it was just talk cuz i heard some guys talkin bout it at the gym. could i do this BIG? run my test and deca and then use tren for the last few weeks to help harden up and get some lean gains

for starters, what are your stats and cycle history, and what ester tren?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

[wayne69]

age:22
height:5'11"
weight:195
body fat %: not really sure. the last time i check i think it was like 15%
years training:4 years

this will be my 4th cycle and the only tren i can get right now is tren enanthate

[Big]

tren e would be pointless for a few weeks, in my opinion. either plan a good test/deca or test/tren cycle.

[J431S]

I'm sure it would shut him off completely within 2 wks since both drugs are highly suppressive to natural production of testosterones.

[wayne69]

would do u think would be a better cycle, running test e for 750mgs/week for 13 weeks and deca at 600mgs/week for 10 weeks or test at 500mgs/week for 14 to 15 weeks and deca at 400mgs for 12 weeks

[wayne69]

which do yall think would be a better cycle to run?

[J431S]

last time i did test e and deca was like this my friend: forgive me for sounding like McCain...LOL

test e 500mg a wk for 12 wks
deca 400mg a wk for 10 wks.

I gain over 24Ibs kept 14 of them afte pct.

for pct I had nolva thru out the cycle (20mg eod) and clomid (150mg-100mg-50mg phase in) and letro thru wk 14 thru wk 19 and wk 14 consectively.

good luck

[Big]

I would not run nolva while on cycle with a 19nor.

[J431S]

I would not run nolva while on cycle with a 19nor.

i did it...everyone was telling me to do so then....so i took their advise...that was back in 2006...nothing happen though...i guess the idea was that it regulate estrogen level....we learn thru mistake here....which confirm the conventional thinking AAS is trial and tribulation. ...No wonder some people here are still skeptical of gyno....because going for surgery is not a joke....especially if your insurance don;t cover such attention....LOL

[wayne69]

thanks man. would there be a big difference in gains if i ran 750mgs/week of test instead of 500mgs?

[Big]

thanks man. would there be a big difference in gains if i ran 750mgs/week of test instead of 500mgs?

there again, that depends on the individual. genetics, sensitivity to certain compounds, etc play a role. I've known guys who could run 300mg/week and gain like other guys who run 1g/week. there is no "one size fits all" answer to that question.

[wayne69]

thanks BIG

[T_Own]

ok. ive heard before that gains from test and tren are easier to hold on to after coming off the cycle compared to test and deca. is that true?

i think that would just have to do with the extra water weight you would put on with the deca compared to the tren. but if you used npp the short ester might make that a little less drastic. but nandrolone vs trenbolone wouldn't make a difference in terms of keeping gains