hehe i get like that on clomid too , but its worth it anyway its just 2 weeks , after i finish
the clomid , boom! i am back normal and good.
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hehe i get like that on clomid too , but its worth it anyway its just 2 weeks , after i finish
the clomid , boom! i am back normal and good.
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My estradiol level is kinda high .. and I took arimidex like .25mg ... and I wuz feeling bizzerk .. Like very frusturated and aggressive ... so I guess I will better stick to clomid 50mg .. don't wanna get all such sideys ... coz of hormonial up/z and down/z...
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Reallyz? Dood , you are under hormonial attackz man. Datz friggin radicalz dood. like sideys gang up on youz.Originally Posted by SheriD
On serious note though, clomid is mostly used to stimulate you LH. The estrogen blocking effect of clomid is very weak. If you prone to gyno and your estradiol levels are high , you do need arimidex ( I read studies where femara was used in cases like yours). HCG will cause more aromatization which will make ur already high estro levels even higher. Plus test prop 99% outta 100 is very painful. U seem dont even have a clue how to inject or in your words "manage your butt" . So you're predestined to walk around with lumps on your ass with all the prop is being in underskin pockets in your ass-cheeks. If you worry so much and you're gyno prone (my guess u have some significant fat layer, but i might be wrong about that) and if you decided to use AAS, I'd look into Anavar - simple as that.
U dont need to run test as your base all the time (that's a myth)
U can use non-aromatized oral such as oxandrolone on its own.
1. It'll eliminate the whole gyno-estradiol concern u having
2. You won't need to stick yourself in places you're not sure about (managing your ass in your words)
3. Your levels will be more stable and consistant because u'll have to take var every day twice a day ( it has 8-12hrs half-life). Its way better than inject 1cc of painful prop every once in 4 days , under your skin on your right ass cheek and end up walking around with prop-lumps.
P.S. The hillarious thing is when one bro said he ran the exact same cycle only he did 50mg ED for 8 weeks. ( That's not the same cycle my man NEOSUP).
Cause I can do that too :
Dude I just ran the exact same cycle as u plan. Only I ran test e instead of prop. I ran it for 14 weeks not 6 and I stacked it with dbol, deca and winny. Plus my PCT looked a bit different. Other than that , it was an exact cycle u planning to run.
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Reallyz? Dood , you are under hormonial attackz man. Datz friggin radicalz dood. like sideys gang up on youz.
On serious note though, clomid is mostly used to stimulate you LH. The estrogen blocking effect of clomid is very weak. If you prone to gyno and your estradiol levels are high , you do need arimidex ( I read studies where femara was used in cases like yours). HCG will cause more aromatization which will make ur already high estro levels even higher. Plus test prop 99% outta 100 is very painful. U seem dont even have a clue how to inject or in your words "manage your butt" . So you're predestined to walk around with lumps on your ass with all the prop is being in underskin pockets in your ass-cheeks. If you worry so much and you're gyno prone (my guess u have some significant fat layer, but i might be wrong about that) and if you decided to use AAS, I'd look into Anavar - simple as that.
U dont need to run test as your base all the time (that's a myth)
U can use non-aromatized oral such as oxandrolone on its own.
1. It'll eliminate the whole gyno-estradiol concern u having
2. You won't need to stick yourself in places you're not sure about (managing your ass in your words)
3. Your levels will be more stable and consistant because u'll have to take var every day twice a day ( it has 8-12hrs half-life). Its way better than inject 1cc of painful prop every once in 4 days , under your skin on your right ass cheek and end up walking around with prop-lumps.
P.S. The hillarious thing is when one bro said he ran the exact same cycle only he did 50mg ED for 8 weeks. ( That's not the same cycle my man NEOSUP).
Cause I can do that too :
Dude I just ran the exact same cycle as u plan. Only I ran test e instead of prop. I ran it for 14 weeks not 6 and I stacked it with dbol, deca and winny. Plus my PCT looked a bit different. Other than that , it was an exact cycle u planning to run.
My estradiol level went high .. coz of HGH I guess ... I was using that for sometime .. and I guess that must hv boosted my test/estradiol levels. I have stopped it for sometime ... out of gear and budget...
Need to do my blood work again in a while and check if everythings gone normal .... and thats when I plan to do test only cycle.. I am taking arimidex at 1mg every week to lower the estradiol then I will stop it ...
Will the same pct protocol be followed for anavar only cycle??? Clomid and Nolva??? 20/20/20/20 50/50/25/25
I am at 14% BF ... 5'11, 80 kgs ... most of the fat around the hips and stomach .. which I should blame the high estrogen level for ..
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yea bro , you need to stay on arimidex. 1mg a week isn't that much for you then. I feel for you ! hope it'll pass. Arimidex is a very strong drug. Stronger than Femara I believe. But Femara works differently and the dose of 2.5mg will kill all the estrogen. I read the studies where people with high estradiol were prescribed femara and used it with great success. Ask your doctor about that. For Anavar , u wont need that much anti e's. It doesnt cause estrogen bloating. Every lbs u gain u'll keep basically if u work out hard enough. Its a very good drug. And u'll have better results if u spend the same amount of money on good var than HGH and prop. Most people would've needed the opposite , but for u var is the way to go imo.
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