Gotcha. The higher carb count is a common misconception in relation to the 4:1 thing. He also mentioned that between 4:1 and 2:1 is also acceptable. I usually hit around 3:1 for PWO, and I base it off Carb count to begin with, not protein. I am gong to be eating again relatively soon regardless. So, if I am consuming 25G of Protein (1 scoop whey), at a 3:1 ratio, that'd be 75G carbs. Sometimes I even do 3/4 scoop whey, etc. O.J. has great simple sugars and if you add in some Waxy Maize Starch you're good to go.![]()





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