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    Quote Originally Posted by sinny View Post
    im with you there bro,we do need a slight amount of estrogen to grow even though a lot of people do not share this view ..what im saying is imo never juice without 1 as it may not affect you now but later in life i promise you it will come back to you if you do this to often..i dont mind writing something up when i get a moment if you would like to read why you should always run an AI
    Sure right it up. I like to see it..... as numerous of people and logs will state with such simple cycles as these you gains will be cut short. Estrogen is anabolic and that is why the best way to solve the problem is to keep an eye on it through blood work before, during, and after. Willing to bet most guys don't need an AI during there cycles and are actually hurting there results tremendously and it seems most the guys who recommend it in my experience here and other places during these type cycles usually aren't the biggest guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Sure right it up. I like to see it..... as numerous of people and logs will state with such simple cycles as these you gains will be cut short. Estrogen is anabolic and that is why the best way to solve the problem is to keep an eye on it through blood work before, during, and after. Willing to bet most guys don't need an AI during there cycles and are actually hurting there results tremendously and it seems most the guys who recommend it in my experience here and other places during these type cycles usually aren't the biggest guys.
    i l write it up for you bro,im around 250lb so not to small,but in the same breath not big enough either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Sure right it up. I like to see it..... as numerous of people and logs will state with such simple cycles as these you gains will be cut short. Estrogen is anabolic and that is why the best way to solve the problem is to keep an eye on it through blood work before, during, and after. Willing to bet most guys don't need an AI during there cycles and are actually hurting there results tremendously and it seems most the guys who recommend it in my experience here and other places during these type cycles usually aren't the biggest guys.
    also as you know Nolva is a SERM which means it's selective. It only blocks estrogen in certain tissue. It's designed to block estrogen in the breast tissue. That's fine for gyno but you'll still have high levels of estrogen in your system that will effect, mood, acne, blood pressure, etc. An suicidal AI will inhibit the production of the estrogen so you don't have too much in your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinny View Post
    also as you know Nolva is a SERM which means it's selective. It only blocks estrogen in certain tissue. It's designed to block estrogen in the breast tissue. That's fine for gyno but you'll still have high levels of estrogen in your system that will effect, mood, acne, blood pressure, etc. An suicidal AI will inhibit the production of the estrogen so you don't have too much in your body.
    Check post 24. Anyway I gotta head out. Till later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    Sure right it up. I like to see it..... as numerous of people and logs will state with such simple cycles as these you gains will be cut short. Estrogen is anabolic and that is why the best way to solve the problem is to keep an eye on it through blood work before, during, and after. Willing to bet most guys don't need an AI during there cycles and are actually hurting there results tremendously and it seems most the guys who recommend it in my experience here and other places during these type cycles usually aren't the biggest guys.
    without writing a book on the subject bro,il give you my reasons in a summary

    I just named 3 reasons in an earlyer post why you need an AI. Mood, acne, blood pressure. here are 3 more reasons why i think AI should always be used? Prostate enlargement, dopamine and serotonin levels . All affected by estrogen. Estrogen is a female hormone. It wreaks havoc on a man. ANY amount of test beyond your natural levels needs an AI. can i ask why do you feel he does not need it? Is it because he can use low amounts of test and not feel the side effects? Well lets put it this way bro, if I don't feel or see anything I must be okay right ?/wrong my friend. That would be ridiculous. Why would you stress your body out with estrogen until the sides show up, and then when they do and they will we would then try to reverse it with an AI?

    Makes sence,i understand where your coming from with what your saying,i just worry about people using gear without an AI,my father specializes in mens health and when i started juicing 10 years ago,made sure i knew the health implications,i cruise now then cycle,then cruise,il never come off and have not been off for 6 years,without an AI even during a TRT dose of 100-250mg test a week i would need an AI..i hope i have been respectful in the way i have answered this and made a little sence also..
    Last edited by sinny; 12-08-2008 at 02:50 PM.

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