acupuncture, massage, chiropractic...

[MuscleScience]

This is a break down of Chiropractic education vs that of Med school.

http://www.chiropracticresearch.org/...oeduaction.htm

[thegodfather]

Well I have a couple of axe's to grind, but not with Chiro. Just with some other things brought up in this thread...This new trend with other avenues of healthcare wanting prescription rights...It seems these days, that everyone wants to be the "Doctor" without going to medical school and doing a long residency. NPs, CRNAs, PA's,etc, etc...There is a reason that medical school is 4 years long and most residency+fellowship programs are 4 years minimum, with 7 years for surgical residencies. There is an abundance of information a person must know off the top of their heads in order to perform these duties. Of course, with the specialization of labor, and the unions of these various professions, they will be pushing for a bigger piece of the market.

One of the things that IRKS the shit out of me to no end is that DNP's are pushing to be called "Doctor" in a clinical setting. For those unaware, a DNP has a Doctorate of Nurse Practioner, essentially a PhD in NP.

The law in the majority of the states is VERY VERY CLEAR! The only person who is to be addressed as "DOCTOR" in a hospital/clinical setting (aside from private practice chiro offices), are: MD/DO, DPM, DDS/DMD. Other then that, it is FRAUD to present yourself as a "DOCTOR" if you are inside of a hospital. If you are however in a teaching setting, and you posess some sort of PhD then of course it is ok to be expected to be addressed by your proper title. But DNPs, DC's, etc have no business being addressed as a "Doctor" within a hospital. In Pennsylvania it is a serious crime.

Even more aggrivating, is the CRNA's who think they can perform the job of an Anesthesiologist better then an Anesthesiologist. Hospitals are cutting the number that they employ and employing many more CRNA's under the supervision of board certified Anesthesiologists. To think that the patient is getting the same level of care and expertise is LAUGHABLE! Oh well, that was my rant on that topic...

I need to shoot one of you chiro's a PM, I have a question, medically related...

[MuscleScience]

Well I have a couple of axe's to grind, but not with Chiro. Just with some other things brought up in this thread...This new trend with other avenues of healthcare wanting prescription rights...It seems these days, that everyone wants to be the "Doctor" without going to medical school and doing a long residency. NPs, CRNAs, PA's,etc, etc...There is a reason that medical school is 4 years long and most residency+fellowship programs are 4 years minimum, with 7 years for surgical residencies. There is an abundance of information a person must know off the top of their heads in order to perform these duties. Of course, with the specialization of labor, and the unions of these various professions, they will be pushing for a bigger piece of the market.

One of the things that IRKS the shit out of me to no end is that DNP's are pushing to be called "Doctor" in a clinical setting. For those unaware, a DNP has a Doctorate of Nurse Practioner, essentially a PhD in NP.

The law in the majority of the states is VERY VERY CLEAR! The only person who is to be addressed as "DOCTOR" in a hospital/clinical setting (aside from private practice chiro offices), are: MD/DO, DPM, DDS/DMD. Other then that, it is FRAUD to present yourself as a "DOCTOR" if you are inside of a hospital. If you are however in a teaching setting, and you posess some sort of PhD then of course it is ok to be expected to be addressed by your proper title. But DNPs, DC's, etc have no business being addressed as a "Doctor" within a hospital. In Pennsylvania it is a serious crime.

Even more aggrivating, is the CRNA's who think they can perform the job of an Anesthesiologist better then an Anesthesiologist. Hospitals are cutting the number that they employ and employing many more CRNA's under the supervision of board certified Anesthesiologists. To think that the patient is getting the same level of care and expertise is LAUGHABLE! Oh well, that was my rant on that topic...

I need to shoot one of you chiro's a PM, I have a question, medically related...

I have two friends that are CRNA's, it is very hard to get into school. They have to have Trauma/ER experience before they go in. The school they attend is no joke.

[Doc.Sust]

But DNPs, DC's, etc have no business being addressed as a "Doctor" within a hospital. In Pennsylvania it is a serious crime.

a lot of DC's now have hospital privileges and are reffered to as dr's by the staff

[thegodfather]

a lot of DC's now have hospital privileges and are reffered to as dr's by the staff

63 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 422.10. Unauthorized practice of medicine and surgery

No person other than a medical doctor shall engage in any of the following conduct except as authorized or exempted in this act:

Practice medicine and surgery.

Purport to practice medicine and surgery.

Hold forth as authorized to practice medicine and surgery through use of a title, including, but not necessarily limited to, medical doctor, doctor of medicine, doctor of medicine and surgery, doctor of a designated disease, physician, physician of a designated disease, or any abbreviation for the foregoing.

Otherwise hold forth as authorized to practice medicine and surgery.


63 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 422.16. Consultation

A person authorized to practice medicine or surgery or osteopathy without restriction by any other state may, upon request by a medical doctor, provide consultation to the medical doctor regarding the treatment of a patient under the care of the medical doctor