First cycle

[nath78]

ok here new cycle any change welcome

test cyp 12/wk @ 400mg
D-bol 1-4/wk @ 30mg

pct:
HCG wk/13@500iu (3 shots monday/wednesday/friday)
Nolvadex @20/20/20/20 (week 14-17)
Clomid @ 100/50/50/50 (week 14-17)
LIV.52

arimidex at hand for gyno

test cyp requires you to start pct 2 weeks after last injection

other than that it looks alright,im runnin the same cycle just using test e but am running 40mg of dbol ed (well 20mg of androl and 20mg of dbol)not ideal but ive got a couple of each look. and running 500mg of test a wk,but thats up to you,looks good though.

as for pct im just using just clomid and nolva.

[BigBrucie]

test cyp requires you to start pct 2 weeks after last injection

other than that it looks alright,im runnin the same cycle just using test e but am running 40mg of dbol ed (well 20mg of androl and 20mg of dbol)not ideal but ive got a couple of each look. and running 500mg of test a wk,but thats up to you,looks good though.

as for pct im just using just clomid and nolva.

i know im only starting HCG straight after and from what iv read with HCG u are required to take nolva
500mg is stable and much used dosage but iv heard god things about 400mg and im sure as its first cycle 400 will get plenty gains
how many weeks are u running test E
also have u had previous cycle experience, becouse HCG is only problem i dont really know if its necessary as im not certion that a simple test and dbol cycle couse testicular atrophy to such a vast degree also it is pricey?
if you had good results with just clomid and nolva and kept gains let me know i might then drop HCG