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    Quote Originally Posted by gst528i View Post
    The above posts make alot more sense. I see all these great qoute from your bible and there's one thing that has always bothered me about the religion of islam. So much that i have sometime even thought of dumping my muslim gf. While i my self consider to believe in god but not religion i have reaserched other religions to find one that may be fit for me. So far it is futile. However one thing about islam that itched me till today has been how one of the prophets lead their lives. REALIZE THIS, THIS IS NOT MY OPINION OR WHAT I THINK IF ISLAM. I have read the following in not only books, articles papers and some compelling evidence. But i have not found a Muslim person to talk to about. MY GF SHUT ME OFF WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS. So if you will help me understand this.

    Initially, I believed what many Muslims asserted: Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage to the nine year old Aisha following her first menstruation. HOWEVER, after reading brother Sam Shamoun’s articles (1, 2), I realized that the Quran, the Hadith, and Muslim scholar’s writings state that a Muslim husband can engage in sex with a child-bride before she has her first menses. Further, Muhammad actually did just this – he had intercourse with Aisha prior to her first menses!

    This increases the weight and scope of my argument and places Muhammad and Islam in a far darker, more disreputable, light. Many Muslims don’t know this and by their own standards Muhammad did the wrong thing in having sex with a child. Muslims have to answer for their continued support for Muhammad because he transgresses their standards. When children are allowed to be used for sex then that is sexual exploitation; so why do they support the creator and establishment of a system that entrenches the abuse and sexual exploitation of children?

    I am not trying to use cheap polemics. Surely you realize that for children there are painful ramifications behind Muhammad’s action. They need to be discussed in detail and in context. It might be offensive to some but it needs to be discussed.
    Dear gst528i,

    Peace be unto you.

    I must object to you calling Sam Shamoun as "brother". He is one of the most vitriolically Islamophobic nutters alive in the world. Like I condemn Muslim extremists, I think you should condemn Christian extremists, of which he is.

    As for the claim that Prophet Muhammad [s] was a pedophile (a horrific claim), I have written a book on this subject. I will attach it.

    I kindly ask you to remove the link to that site however, since I asked for no links to be in this thread. The reason is not that I am not brave enough to answer the arguments (since I have already addressed them all in the book I am linking you to), but rather because I want this thread to be about building bridges. Linking to such vitriolically Islamophobic sites will blow up those bridges. Sam Shamoun is a pathological liar. He is so blind with his hatred for Islam that he doesn't mind being intellectually dishonest.

    I, on the other hand, do not hate Christianity, so I can manage to be fair about it. (In fact, of all the other religions out there, I like Christianity second most after Islam.) I certainly do not purposefully further an argument I *know* to be false, but Sam Shamoun does that. My friend has dealt with him a LOT, and knows how dishonest the guy is.

    Let's stay away from nutters. I won't post diatribes from Al-Qaeda types, and I ask others not to post diatribes from these neo-con extremist nutters.

    Anyways, here is the e-book, which answers all the arguments:

    http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/f/The_I...lass_House.pdf

    Please do not post on this subject again, until you've read the book. I say this because I've answered everything in there about this topic (took me many months to write).

    I apologize if in this post of mine I sound a bit angry, and usually I don't get so...but Sam Shamoun gets my blood boiling! And this baseless accusation--that Prophet Muhammad [s] was a pedophile--makes my head want to explode.

    Again, sorry!

    So please remove the link to that horrific site (which is full of lies and outright forgeries). If however you read the book and something is still un-answered, then please feel free to post here. But please read the book first. This is just about this one topic, since it will eat up ALL my time and I won't be able to answer other questions then.

    Please do read the e-book.

    Thanks!

    In the Care of the Lord,
    -Saladin.

    P.S. Sorry T-Own!!!! lollll I'm on it!
    Last edited by BuffedGuy; 01-02-2009 at 09:59 PM.

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