First cycle

[jimmyinkedup]

Clomid/Nova is perfect PCT.....
if he is planning to use adex right upto PCT then it is OK to go with HCG during cycle(2weeks prior and 2weeks before pct).....he already said he will be doing this

jimmy I personally think for first cycle(test/dbol) he doesn't need to use AI until gyno symp appears (You don't go from sensitive nipples to boobs in two weeks if you are only on a first cycle)......right but adex will take a week to reach stsble blood levels and at .25eod i seriously doubt he will hamper his gains
AI's are not always needed, especially if one has been used to control estrogen (aromatse activity) during the cycle. There is a high risk of lowering estrogen too low and that can bring its own side effects; Lowered labido, aching joints, poor cholesterol and can negatively effect the immune system. We need some estrogen, not alot, not zero, but one cannot afford a too low an estrogen level at this time of PCT.no one recommended an ai during pct..not me anyway


dont u think at 1st week of PCT your test level will fall again as u stopped HCG...u never increased your LH before PCT ( as LH levels will be down ) but if u use in the first week of PCT also your LH levels will increase(nova/clomid) and HCG providing effect on test....i can only speak from personal experience what works for me

after reading from articles from PoWer PCT...it is said it would be good if all three HCG/NOVA/clomid as I stated
A combination of these drugs will be very synergistic. HCG providing immediate effect on your tests.Clomid/Nova will block estrongen and resume normal release of gonadrotropins from pituitary.

Regarding diet
there is a xcellent thready by muriloninja
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

one more good thread by LeanMeOut
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

Iam pretty sure it must help u :-)

Again what pct protocol do you use that has worked well for you? Look i know u r trying to help but as he said above u r confucing him...thats the last thing he needs as there areobviously alot of questions already. Its his first cycle it should really be as simple ass possible ..imo it should be test only but whatever he stated hi parmeters and i and others have tried to help...it seems we were pretty close to a gameplan but now this info is trhown in the mix imo unnecessarily.

[lovex]

Again what pct protocol do you use that has worked well for you? Look i know u r trying to help but as he said above u r confucing him...thats the last thing he needs as there areobviously alot of questions already. Its his first cycle it should really be as simple ass possible ..imo it should be test only but whatever he stated hi parmeters and i and others have tried to help...it seems we were pretty close to a gameplan but now this info is trhown in the mix imo unnecessarily.

yes it must be test only in first cycle....
first cycle must be simple (without adex) I would say...he must decide
regarding Hcg I would like to ask u "what made u think 11-14 for HcG", why didnt u consider Hcg in PCT...pls no off but just a query.