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    thanks for that informations. I guess im going to hell. I appriciate your honest answers even if they are harsh lol..
    I'm sorry but i have more questions ....
    1) How does islam, allah and koran explain homosexual people. Also are do they automatically go to hell even if they are devout muslims? I am sure they wouldnt be considered devout since they are committing sin somehow by practicing homosexual activities.
    2) Why is anal sex not allowed? Or was my gf tricking me ? Ofcourse she ate pork and did things that are sin. ( on a side note she finally gave up and let me in lol ..)
    3) Why is it okay for muslims to marry first cousins? (correct me if i am wrong please i do not mean to offend. It;s just i know muslims that are married and by their account they are first cousin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gst528i View Post
    2) Why is anal sex not allowed? Or was my gf tricking me ? Ofcourse she ate pork and did things that are sin. ( on a side note she finally gave up and let me in lol ..)
    It is forbidden in Islam, as it is considered to be indecent, barbaric, dirty, etc. I don't know of any explanation beyond that, or why it is considered those things. Sorry.

    God and His Messenger commanded us to do certain things and to stay away from others. Although we believe that all such prohibitions are for our own good, we don't always know *what* exactly that good is. We merely trust in God and what was sent through His Prophet. We hear and we obey. Coming up with explanations is done only to strengthen our faith, not to question the validity of rulings. If we cannot come up with a good reason, this doesn't mean we change the ruling, because we may come to know the reason why later in life, or later generations may come to know it, or we may come to know the wisdom in it on the Day of Judgment. That is the Islamic belief.

    Going to answer your other two questions shortly, God-Willing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffedGuy View Post
    Peace be unto you, GST528i.



    It is forbidden in Islam, as it is considered to be indecent, barbaric, dirty, etc. I don't know of any explanation beyond that, or why it is considered those things. Sorry.

    God and His Messenger commanded us to do certain things and to stay away from others. Although we believe that all such prohibitions are for our own good, we don't always know *what* exactly that good is. We merely trust in God and what was sent through His Prophet. We hear and we obey. Coming up with explanations is done only to strengthen our faith, not to question the validity of rulings. If we cannot come up with a good reason, this doesn't mean we change the ruling, because we may come to know the reason why later in life, or later generations may come to know it, or we may come to know the wisdom in it on the Day of Judgment. That is the Islamic belief.

    Going to answer your other two questions shortly, God-Willing.

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    While, i understand your answer " dirty and forbidden" i have a theory if you will.
    I know that it is encouraged for muslims to have as many as children that one can have provided they can provide for them. This is why birth control is frowned upon is islamic counties.
    So my theory is, obviously anal sex will not enable pregnancy, therefore i think it is forbidden as this would be counter productive in spreading the muslim religion.
    It would also be considered indulging in pleasure that is considered sin.
    So by forbidding anal, one can say it will help increase chances of pregnancy.
    I would like your opinion on this. Thanks and please take your time i now there alot of questions being asked here and at some point ur gonna be like **** " WHAT IS WITH THE QUESTIONS" lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gst528i View Post
    While, i understand your answer " dirty and forbidden" i have a theory if you will.
    I know that it is encouraged for muslims to have as many as children that one can have provided they can provide for them. This is why birth control is frowned upon is islamic counties.
    So my theory is, obviously anal sex will not enable pregnancy, therefore i think it is forbidden as this would be counter productive in spreading the muslim religion.
    It would also be considered indulging in pleasure that is considered sin.
    So by forbidding anal, one can say it will help increase chances of pregnancy.
    I actually am going to have to disagree with you on this. Yes, it was encouraged to have children, but the Prophet's disciples practiced coitus interruptus (a method to prevent pregnancy) and it was not seen as something wrong.

    Also, as for "it would also be considering indulging in pleasure that is considered sin", everything else is considered permissible in Islam, including oral sex. Islam differs from some other religions in that sex for pleasure is considered a good thing. Prophet Muhammad [s] said that a man is rewarded for having sex with his wife, i.e. just for pleasure. The Prophet's disciples were stunned when he said this, so they asked for clarification. He [s] responded by saying to the effect of: is it not true that he is having lawful sexual intercourse with his wife as opposed to fornicating or committing adultery? They said 'yes'. So he [s] said that this is why it is considered good; furthermore, it builds love between husband and wife.

    I would like your opinion on this. Thanks and please take your time i now there alot of questions being asked here and at some point ur gonna be like **** " WHAT IS WITH THE QUESTIONS" lol
    No, God-Willing I won't say that.

    Plus now I have competition with the Ask a Jew thread!!!

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    Last edited by BuffedGuy; 01-06-2009 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gst528i View Post
    3) Why is it okay for muslims to marry first cousins? (correct me if i am wrong please i do not mean to offend. It;s just i know muslims that are married and by their account they are first cousin.
    Prophet Muhammad [s] said:
    "God does not look at your body and face; rather he looks at your heart."(Sunan at-Tirmidhi)
    In regards to marriage, he said:
    "A woman is [generally] married for four reasons: her wealth, her family status, her beauty, and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman, otherwise you will be one of the losers!" (Sahih al-Bukhari)
    So Muslims are encouraged to marry pious women of good character. If this person happens to be a cousin, then a man should marry her. However, there is nothing in Islam that encourages marrying cousins. Rather, it is solely based on piety.

    In the West, cousins grow up together. Therefore, it is considered weird to marry cousins, since they are like brothers and sisters. However, under Islamic Law, when cousins hit the age of puberty, members of the opposite gender are separated and a strict code of gender segregation is followed. Women must cover themselves in the headscarf in front of male cousins, and for all intents and purposes, they are considered strangers. They don't even talk to each other, except perhaps a terse "as-salam alaykum" here and there.

    As for why it is not forbidden, we don't see why it should be. Yes, it is true--proven by evidence based medicine--that consanguineous marriages (cousin marriages) increase the chances of certain diseases manifesting themselves. If inbreeding goes on for many generations, the increase in morbidity is significant.

    The issue, however, is not really cousin marriages...rather, it is about inbreeding that goes on for many generations. In other words, an occasional cousin marriage here and there will NOT significantly increase the chances of disease manifestation. So why, reason Muslims, should we ban ALL cousin marriages?

    So we believe that cousin marriages here and there are OK...inbreeding, on the other hand, is problematic.

    Having said that, we *do* have the problem of inbreeding in many Muslim countries, such as Pakistan, i.e. first cousins keep getting married. This is contrary to our religion and it is a matter upon which many Ulema (clergy) are encouraging change. It actually doesn't have to do with religion, but tribal culture. They wish to keep wealth within the family and there are also racist reasons involved, reasons which are forbidden in Islam.

    The motivations for inbreeding in Pakistan are against Islam, in my humble opinion. It is mostly a remnant of the Indian caste system which is contrary to Islam. It is very difficult to find a match because of the need to marry from the exact same caste. Furthermore, there is a desire to keep the money in the family. So, based on this greed and materialism, they seem to discourage what God has allowed, i.e. marriage to a non-relative. I also believe that many parents do not give their children the right to consultation in regards to whom they shall marry, which is also against Islam.

    So to conclude the matter, inbreeding over many generations is a symptom of left-over jahiliyyah (Pre-Islamic culture), not of Islam. In Islam, we are to marry whoever is pious.

    I certainly considered my cousin for marriage, although I decided against it. Not because she was my cousin, but for other reasons. But her being a cousin did not at all dissuade me from marrying her. I have no inbreeding in my family, so marrying her would not have caused any genetic problems.

    Hope that helps.

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