I hope we are proud of ourselves (graphic pics)

[amcon]

two things... voice of reason the avatar name is that like calling the bald guy curly - lol. dude your harsh - not wrong, it is your oppion...

as for israel, and palistine - dude, if this is not what is suposta happen why hasnt the un been brought in and tons of presure put on Israel??? look, i dont want any any any civilian killed. BUT war is war.

so easy for any one to sit back and "arm chair quarter back" this, but there are people who have dedicated their entire lift to the solution over there and the solution to these conflicts and they are not piping up and saying - where is the UN?!?!?!?

WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS HORRIBLE!!! THE USA SHOULD SAY THE HECK WITH EVERY ONE ELSE OUT THERE!!! AND START FIXING HOME !!!! SO, MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE NOT JUMPED IN... DO YOU KNOW? DO I? NO - SO PRAY FOR THEM, AND PRAY THAT DOESNT HAPPEN HERE

[peachfuzz]

muriloninja what is that you think you should be done? (and im not trying to be facetious). I 100% agree the situation is fvcked as is the case in darfur, congo, pakistan, iraq, balochistan, mexico, somalia, as well as numerous other conflicts going on in the world. where is the UN in all of this? how did it become our responsibility? we are spread to think as it is. we cannot even take care of ourselves at the moment. i would love for us to be able to solve the worlds problems but these issues are bigger then that. they have existed for longer then we have been a country and it is naive to think we can solve them. i like to believe that there are people with power that truly want to help make the world a better place. if there was an easy fix. im sure it would be implemented.

[amcon]

muriloninja what is that you think you should be done? (and im not trying to be facetious). I 100% agree the situation is fvcked as is the case in darfur, congo, pakistan, iraq, balochistan, mexico, somalia, as well as numerous other conflicts going on in the world. where is the UN in all of this? how did it become our responsibility? we are spread to think as it is. we cannot even take care of ourselves at the moment. i would love for us to be able to solve the worlds problems but these issues are bigger then that. they have existed for longer then we have been a country and it is naive to think we can solve them. i like to believe that there are people with power that truly want to help make the world a better place. if there was an easy fix. im sure it would be implemented.

that makes sense... "we cant even take care of our selves" lets focus on home... first! (and i know we gave israel tons of $ - how much did we give to palistine? prob the same)

[NightWolf]

What i want to know is why are the Hamas hiding
amongst women and children?. They are high target
profiles but still they hide with women and children
thinking that the isralie will not attack then.
IMO when doing so they are NOT thinking of
the safetey of there pepole.

[Matt]

What i want to know is why are the Hamas hiding
amongst women and children?. They are high target
profiles but still they hide with women and children
thinking that the isralie will not attack then.
IMO when doing so they are NOT thinking of
the safetey of there pepole.

Why dont you read the full thread and you will find the answers to your questions, Hammas dont hide amongst women and children, the place is so crammed theres no where to hide...

[NightWolf]

Why dont you read the full thread and you will find the answers to your questions, Hammas dont hide amongst women and children, the place is so crammed theres no where to hide...

The full thread?? that consists of what, your stupidity?
It is no secret that hamas hides there rockets amongst women
and children, dont give me that "there is no other place to hide bs"

[amcon]

The full thread?? that consists of what, your stupidity?
It is no secret that hamas hides there rockets amongst women
and children, dont give me that "there is no other place to hide bs"

so true, the palistines have very little place to go - but it is not like they are shoulder to shoulder over there... and, not that this justifies ANY thing, but israel is warning where they are going to bomb 3 - 5 min a head of time. NOT THAT MAKES ANY JUSTIFIED!

[Matt]

The full thread?? that consists of what, your stupidity?
It is no secret that hamas hides there rockets amongst women
and children, dont give me that "there is no other place to hide bs"

You show me factual eviedence that shows this. You havnt got any, there isnt any. You hear that a bomb hits a school or hospitle and because the israelis say Hamas were there you believe them..

[BuffedGuy]

that makes sense... "we cant even take care of our selves" lets focus on home... first! (and i know we gave israel tons of $ - how much did we give to palistine? prob the same)

American aid given to Israeli government (conservative estimate) : 133.132 billion dollars

American aid given to Palestinian Authority: 0 dollars (US law prohibits giving aid)

source: http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

American military aid given to Israel (conservative estimate): 65 billion dollars

American military aid given to Palestine: 0 dollars

source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...o_Israel1.html

Almost equal plus or minus a few billion.

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S. Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

"This may mean that U.S. government has given more federal aid to the average Israeli citizen in a given year than it has given to the average American citizen."

source: http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

[Matt]

that makes sense... "we cant even take care of our selves" lets focus on home... first! (and i know we gave israel tons of $ - how much did we give to palistine? prob the same)

Btw The US have never given Palistine a cent.....

[smokethedays]

Btw The US have never given Palistine a cent.....

Matter of fact, they keep in track of who and how much is donated to them. And try to complicate it if is from the US. I have friends here who want to send money there but they can't. They got to do it hand to hand in Jordan and some one will exchange it there. How sad!!!

[amcon]

Matter of fact, they keep in track of who and how much is donated to them. And try to complicate it if is from the US. I have friends here who want to send money there but they can't. They got to do it hand to hand in Jordan and some one will exchange it there. How sad!!!

politely, this is the underlining thread that is woven in to every thing you say about this ... you have friends there that (and rightly so )is the reason why you are so one sided... me i am unattached to either side - and try to look at it objectively... though obviously i have a thought on why this is happening... and i realize that this feels like 's but your not able to be objective on the subject cause you are to close to it(again, with just reason to feel that way)

[smokethedays]

that makes sense... "we cant even take care of our selves" lets focus on home... first! (and i know we gave israel tons of $ - how much did we give to palistine? prob the same)

Common Amcon, are you serious?!!!!

US give Palestine money?!!! Why?!! that will upset Israel and the US cannot upset Israel, or....

[Matt]

muriloninja what is that you think you should be done? (and im not trying to be facetious). I 100% agree the situation is fvcked as is the case in darfur, congo, pakistan, iraq, balochistan, mexico, somalia, as well as numerous other conflicts going on in the world. where is the UN in all of this? how did it become our responsibility? we are spread to think as it is. we cannot even take care of ourselves at the moment. i would love for us to be able to solve the worlds problems but these issues are bigger then that. they have existed for longer then we have been a country and it is naive to think we can solve them. i like to believe that there are people with power that truly want to help make the world a better place. if there was an easy fix. im sure it would be implemented.

The UN tried to pass a statement telling israel to call an end to its invasion, but the US refused to take part in this which leaves the UN powerless.. Stop backing israel and the fighting will stop..

[amcon]

The UN tried to pass a statement telling israel to call an end to its invasion, but the US refused to take part in this which leaves the UN powerless.. Stop backing israel and the fighting will stop..

WE ARE THE USA NOT THE POLICE... THE WORLD HATES US FOR HELPING THESE PEOPLE AND THOSE PEOPLE.... WE ARE NOT THE UN EITHER

[Matt]

WE ARE THE USA NOT THE POLICE... THE WORLD HATES US FOR HELPING THESE PEOPLE AND THOSE PEOPLE.... WE ARE NOT THE UN EITHER

Who the f..k said you were the un?? If your not the worlds police then stop acting as if you were. You need to learn what it takes for the un to pass such a statement, before making a silly comment

[binder]

WE ARE THE USA NOT THE POLICE... THE WORLD HATES US FOR HELPING THESE PEOPLE AND THOSE PEOPLE.... WE ARE NOT THE UN EITHER

exactly

We as American's are screwed no matter what we do. If we go over seas and try to help a government out we are bastards for getting involved. If we stay out of it and let countries do what they want then we are bastards for not helping out.

So why is it that every other country in the world can just stay out of things and nobody bitches about it? When was the last time Japan or China helped anyone out? That's right, they don't because they are too busy taking over the American economy while everyone praises them for staying out of the world's problems.

To the original poster: like someone else stated, if you are so hell bent on doing something then why not do something? you come onto a message board and say how bad America is and at the same time mention that you are sitting at home well fed and safe. That's exactly what are you complaining about other people doing and you are doing it all along!

[smokethedays]

muriloninja what is that you think you should be done? (and im not trying to be facetious). I 100% agree the situation is fvcked as is the case in darfur, congo, pakistan, iraq, balochistan, mexico, somalia, as well as numerous other conflicts going on in the world. where is the UN in all of this? how did it become our responsibility? we are spread to think as it is. we cannot even take care of ourselves at the moment. i would love for us to be able to solve the worlds problems but these issues are bigger then that. they have existed for longer then we have been a country and it is naive to think we can solve them. i like to believe that there are people with power that truly want to help make the world a better place. if there was an easy fix. im sure it would be implemented.

1- UN cannot do anything the US does not approve of.
2- Its the US responsibilty becasue Israel NEVER EVER lanuched a single attack without confirming with the US and recieve the 'blessings", money, and weapons.
3-The US can solve it, but solving it will cost the US what it don't want to pay, the JEws support and their money.

These are facts , you can simply google and find out.