How to run first cycle, if you don't want to "startout" on ancillaries?

[manwitplans]

Maybe it's hard to understand the topic, but here I go:

Well I am not starting cycle anytime soon, because first of all, I am to light, second still growing, third, to to young and so on, so I am doing this strictly for research purposes for my cycling in the distant future.. soo...

Well i've read up a bit here.

Many seems that for your first cycle you should do:

500mg of test only, 10-12 weeks (seems good to me).

Zeroing down im my question:

How should you go about not using ancillaries if not neccesary?

- Always keeping it on hand, and for pct, that I know.

But don't want to use any unless it get's neccesary.
soo..

Should I keep nolvadex and arimidex on hand, and start using arimidex if I feel that I get to bloated, and the nolvadex if gyno symptoms start do appear?

Or start using both arimidex, and nolvadex if gyno starts to appear?

Thank you for any answers

[lord henry]

adex will sort both bloat and gyno probs so thats only needed imo,some say run it from the start of your cycle.

genectics and diet play a big part in gyno/bloat and you wont know untill you start .

[manwitplans]

adex will sort both bloat and gyno probs so thats only needed imo,some say run it from the start of your cycle.

genectics and diet play a big part in gyno/bloat and you wont know untill you start .

Yeah I know genetics will play a role here.
But the thing i asked for was:

- Should I wait for symptoms to appear, or should I just get it coverd by starting out on a-dex at first?

If I start out on a-dex before any symptoms I will never know if I can handle it without.. And when I get gyno symptoms I am sure that nolvadex and/or arimidex will handle this once I get started..

So what would you guys do?

Start cycle, having stuff on hand, and starting when I get symptoms of gyno or get much bloat?

Or just begin running a-dex from the start to the beginning.. ?

[lord henry]

i would wait and if you start too see gyno probs start adex at .25mgs eod .

[manwitplans]

i would wait and if you start too see gyno probs start adex at .25mgs eod .

Alrighty then

[Immortal Soldier]

Starting week 7 of my Test=E 500mg/week cycle.

I have nolva on hand in case anything happens, im a little bloated nothing to bad but then again im taking in around 4,000+ calories 450+ grams of carbs so I would be naive not to expect some bloating.

Besides that no real side effects *knocks on wood*, a little acne on the back nothing to serious.

[manwitplans]

Bumping this for other opinions on the matter (or the same once), just want to hear from as much people as possible to be sure

[M302_Imola]

Keep in mind that the adex will take about 7 days of consecutive ingestion for it to build up enough to combat estrogen/gyno. So waiting to take it at the first sign of gyno (itchy nips) might be to late. Letro acts much quicker in these circumstances but has an estrogen rebound effect when usuage is stopped (if not tapered correctly). For these reasons I would recommend taking .25mg-.5mg of adex EOD from the beginning of your cycle.

[manwitplans]

Keep in mind that the adex will take about 7 days of consecutive ingestion for it to build up enough to combat estrogen/gyno. So waiting to take it at the first sign of gyno (itchy nips) might be to late. Letro acts much quicker in these circumstances but has an estrogen rebound effect when usuage is stopped (if not tapered correctly). For these reasons I would recommend taking .25mg-.5mg of adex EOD from the beginning of your cycle.

Okey, thanks for recommendation.
What about starting nolvadex @ 20mg once you get symptoms?

[M302_Imola]

Okey, thanks for recommendation.
What about starting nolvadex @ 20mg once you get symptoms?

I prefer Adex, save the nolva for PCT.

[T-MOS]

I think its a personal thing. If you are paranoid to the point you don't even want to chance seeing sides, then you should start with the cycle.

If however you don't feel you are predisposed to gyno, and not paranoid, then you can hold off and see how the test effects you but Definitely have everything on hand just in case.

I have done it both ways. the paranoid me did a cycle making sure to use adex the whole way through.
Then I tried a cycle without and was actually fine without it but I had it just in case