A plan to tax motorist mileage!!!

[Dinosaur]

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINKS THAT BOTHERS ME WHEN I THINK OF THIS SO-CALLED POLITICIANS WHO ALWAYS BRING NONE SENCE.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THIS SUGGESTION IS REDICULOUS ONE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK THIS GREAT SECRETARY. MY QUESTION IS AS FOLLOW. ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP NEXT TIME WITH A SUGGESTION THAT TAX PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN AIR THEY BREATH, AND IS IT GOING TO BE MESURED BY KILOWATTS AND SOLD AT THE CROCERY STORE BY JARS.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090221/...le_mileage_tax

[T_Own]

they come up with garbage plans all the time, and just like this, they usually get shot down.

The idea also is gaining ground in several states. The governor of Idaho is talking about such a program. A North Carolina panel suggested in December the state start charging motorists a quarter-cent for every mile as a substitute for the gas tax. Rhode Island's governor, however, has expressed opposition to a panel's recommendation in December that the state charge motorists a half-cent for every mile driven in addition to the gas tax.

actually doesn't sound that bad, as gas taxes are very high, but adding them on top wouldn't work at all.

and air can't be measured in kilowatts...

[Kratos]

I think we may need to go to a mile based tax if something like battery powered cars ever catch. It also makes sense to charge people by the mile for the reason people get better milage on the highway. The people with higher miles driven on the highway should pay for their use of it. If one guy burns a tank of gas driving around town vs driving 350 miles on the highway, who should have to pay the tax that funds highways?

I get the feeling they're doing it because somehow it results in more revenue on paper at current tax rate. They're hungry for more money out of the American tax payer's pocket.

The GPS part of the plan is just stupid, not needed, and an invasion of privacy. It'll make it pretty difficult to commit a crime with a car if the man can look up everywhere your car has been and where it was at the time of the crime. It's none of their business where I've been. I've been doing stuff, and that's as much as they need to know. All you need is a box on the tax return where the taxpayer writes in how many miles they drove that year. If they ever want to audit you, everytime you buy and sell a car, you have to declare the milage on the title. Miles declared durring ownership would have to match your tax returns.

[Dinosaur]

they come up with garbage plans all the time, and just like this, they usually get shot down.



actually doesn't sound that bad, as gas taxes are very high, but adding them on top wouldn't work at all.

and air can't be measured in kilowatts...

yeah, nothing unusual here. its just some of the stuff they come up with makes you feel like you want to walk or take the bus to where u seek to go.

as for the air measurement you are right, I said kilowatts to make things look stupid like the secretary has suggested.
but to be correct its measured by barometer.

I think we may need to go to a mile based tax if something like battery powered cars ever catch. It also makes sense to charge people by the mile for the reason people get better milage on the highway. The people with higher miles driven on the highway should pay for their use of it. If one guy burns a tank of gas driving around town vs driving 350 miles on the highway, who should have to pay the tax that funds highways?

I get the feeling they're doing it because somehow it results in more revenue on paper at current tax rate. They're hungry for more money out of the American tax payer's pocket.

The GPS part of the plan is just stupid, not needed, and an invasion of privacy. It'll make it pretty difficult to commit a crime with a car if the man can look up everywhere your car has been and where it was at the time of the crime. It's none of their business where I've been. I've been doing stuff, and that's as much as they need to know. All you need is a box on the tax return where the taxpayer writes in how many miles they drove that year. If they ever want to audit you, everytime you buy and sell a car, you have to declare the milage on the title. Miles declared durring ownership would have to match your tax returns.

you are scaring me with your ideas. what stuff have u been doing.

[Flagg]

I can see how it could be done to discourage people from driving to the shops a mile down the road rather than walking, in a bid to cut CO2 emmisions, etc... but like most politicians, any way possible to milk the Tax Payer out of anything, no matter the situation or sceanario, they'll take it.

They say fresh water is going to become a big problem in the future with an ever growing population. Being charged for water out your tap would not surprise me one bit.

[Nooomoto]

Cutting down that plan is the only thing Obama has done right so far, IMO.

[Kratos]

They say fresh water is going to become a big problem in the future with an ever growing population. Being charged for water out your tap would not surprise me one bit.

I am charged for the water that comes out of my tap...about 1000$ per year. You aren't?

[Kratos]

you are scaring me with your ideas. what stuff have u been doing.

whatever I'm doing, it's not the man's business
1984

[Kratos]

I can see how it could be done to discourage people from driving to the shops a mile down the road rather than walking, in a bid to cut CO2 emmisions, etc

cause taxing cigs keeps people from smoking right?

CO2 emmisions make me laugh
we're going to burn fossil fuels as long as it's economic to do so. Does it matter if it takes us 100 more years or 300 more years to do so enviromentally speaking?

Oil is eventually going to cause an economic collapse. That's my main reason in my mind for diversification of our energy useage.

[Flagg]

I am charged for the water that comes out of my tap...about 1000$ per year. You aren't?

Scratch that, we are..im talking out my arse, sorry bout that. BUT fresh water abundance is supposedly going to be a problem in the future.

As for cigs, I don't know how it is in America but over here smokes cost the earth now, plus the only places you can pretty much smoke is outside or in your home, that's it.

[Kratos]

As for cigs, I don't know how it is in America but over here smokes cost the earth now, plus the only places you can pretty much smoke is outside or in your home, that's it.

same here but smoking is still common enough

[fizler]

Its about time for another Boston tea party. we are overtaxed to hell, those of use who make any sort of money. My votes should count for a high percent because of how much tax I pay. If you don't work and live off the government you should be aloud to vote.

[T_Own]

kratos, thats why they put tolls on highways. in PA, they have the turnpike obviously, but I-80 (big road going e-w) might have tolls added to it for that very reason. they aren't much, but if you think of all the traffic they get over the time it takes to actually wear down a road, its substantial

[Kratos]

kratos, thats why they put tolls on highways. in PA, they have the turnpike obviously, but I-80 (big road going e-w) might have tolls added to it for that very reason. they aren't much, but if you think of all the traffic they get over the time it takes to actually wear down a road, its substantial

what's why they put toll revenues on highways?

We're talking about the federal gas tax. Tolls go directly to the states. In addition to the toll revenues the states have their own gas tax. The fed gas tax is money doled out to the states for maitance of the interstate system only. States have to pay the rest of the share to maintain the interstate.

In a situation like Penn or NJ there is a very low gas tax and a very high percentage of the total revenue is generated by tolls for both state and federal highway maitence.

In CT for example we have almost no tolls. The average resident pays 50 cents in tolls per year. The average gas tax per citizen is somewhere around 140 bucks.

Some states double dip like Delaware where the average citizen pays like 230 bucks per year in tolls and still 150 bucks in gas tax.

All depends where you live and how much they're trying to generate on transportation. How much of that total pie is made up by tolls vs gas tax.

There are no federal toll booths that I know of. I hate toll booths, they're trying to bring them back on a bridge right where I live. I use that bridge all the time. To put in tolls and still recieve federal funding on a road, the toll booths must predate the federal interstate system. In my case the bridge had tolls in the past, once the bond was paid back on the bridge, they were removed. Penn Pike was built pre 1940 I think so no problem there. Do you really want more toll roads? Wouldn't you rather just pay a higher gas tax or submit your miles driven at the end of the year. Even if you've got easy pass, you still have to pay a bill on that, so filling out your miles on tax return wouldn't be any more work.

Some people need to use the pike more frequently because of their proximity to it. Why should they pay a bigger share of the state motorist taxes?

The only real advantage to the state tax payers is the people passing through the state have to empty their pockets on their way though.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

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[j4ever41]

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINKS THAT BOTHERS ME WHEN I THINK OF THIS SO-CALLED POLITICIANS WHO ALWAYS BRING NONE SENCE.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THIS SUGGESTION IS REDICULOUS ONE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK THIS GREAT SECRETARY. MY QUESTION IS AS FOLLOW. ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP NEXT TIME WITH A SUGGESTION THAT TAX PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN AIR THEY BREATH, AND IS IT GOING TO BE MESURED BY KILOWATTS AND SOLD AT THE CROCERY STORE BY JARS.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090221/...le_mileage_tax

another idea

[Dinosaur]

whatever I'm doing, it's not the man's business
1984

I don't understand why ur using the offensive expression. I didn;t mean anything bad. chill out, will ya.

what's with the 1984 thing...

[Kratos]

I don't understand why ur using the offensive expression. I didn;t mean anything bad. chill out, will ya.

what's with the 1984 thing...

I'm just saying, I'm not interested in carrying a tracking device. They put those on criminals so they can watch them. They don't have the right to track me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[Dinosaur]

I'm just saying, I'm not interested in carrying a tracking device. They put those on criminals so they can watch them. They don't have the right to track me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

got ya, I just got confused. it will interesting to read that book. I bet It might teach you stuff you never heard about.