did i get ripped off?

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 03:41 PM

i probably have answered my own question already, but i just want a second opinion or 2 just to make sure... i got a bottle of test cyp, its says on it "testosterone cypinate 300" and it says 10ml, 300mg/ml... now obviously this would mean i should get 10 doses out of it, 300mg each, but the bastard i bought it from charged me |edit... A F'IN LOT|and said it was 20 shots and not 10... what gives? am i missing something here, or did i get ripped? and if so, how bad would it be to run it 1 shot a week for 10 weeks (300mg each shot) for a first cycle? BTW stats for anyone interested 22 years old, weight 180, working out 3 years, want to mostly bulk but itd be nice to shed a few in the process, diet is in check if anyones interested ill post it but not really needed for my question... who can help out here..

**johnnybigguns** · 03-05-2009, 03:43 PM

NO price talk man edit that out.

**jamyjamjr** · 03-05-2009, 03:43 PM

looks like you got taxed buddy.. 300mg a week is not worth it.. u need to run 600 with cyp cuz the ester is so heavy

**lord henry** · 03-05-2009, 03:45 PM

yup sorry for your loss ,you dident get much for you $

**MMArmour** · 03-05-2009, 03:47 PM

^^ i both disagree and agree.

The actualy free bound test after ester (cypionate) is detached from the testosterone molecule is significantly less than shorter esters (prop) but i dont think you have to run it at 600mg/wk to see results.

I would not run a long ester any less than 300mg/wk.

You will see results from it. Not the same results as 600mg/wk but is it possible for you to get more from a different source maybe? Do you have PCT in order?

What is your bf%?

**abstrack** · 03-05-2009, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

looks like you got taxed buddy.. 300mg a week is not worth it.. u need to run 600 with cyp cuz the ester is so heavy

That doesnt make sense at all. There is no scientific data to back up your theory on the weights of esters to justify the dosage for this test subject to see physical results.

Thats either parroted advice or you're basing your info off of your own experience.

This is his first cycle nonetheless.

**lord henry** · 03-05-2009, 03:50 PM

**abstrack** · 03-05-2009, 03:51 PM

What I dont get is that there should have been labels on the bottle or descriptions to order. I dont see how you so loose handily handed over your money based on what someone else told you.

Tell him you gave him $440.00 and he owes you a bottle.

**tripmachine** · 03-05-2009, 03:52 PM

considering I still see the price listed in your thread...... YES i personally think you got ripped off preeeeetty bad..... =( I personally wouldn't even want to pay half that price unless i had tons of cash and didn't care.....

**tripmachine** · 03-05-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by lord henry

hahahahaha lol wtf?

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

^^ i both disagree and agree.

The actualy free bound test after ester (cypionate) is detached from the testosterone molecule is significantly less than shorter esters (prop) but i dont think you have to run it at 600mg/wk to see results.

I would not run a long ester any less than 300mg/wk.

You will see results from it. Not the same results as 600mg/wk but is it possible for you to get more from a different source maybe? Do you have PCT in order?

What is your bf%?

i can possibly get more but i spent all my money on this already, i guess maybe i should wait and get more... sucks ive went through hell to get this, anyway i have PCT in order, 18 days after last shot, nolva 40mg first 3 days, then 20 the rest of the first week, then 20/20/10 and i have liquidex also, might use it on cycle if needed, or in pct, havent decided yet. BF not sure, abs show pretty well and ive been cutting for a while, its gotta be in the 11/13% range, im pretty cut up and vascular, only BF i have is a little on my stomach and sides.

**lord henry** · 03-05-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by tripmachine

hahahahaha lol wtf?

just playing

**MMArmour** · 03-05-2009, 03:56 PM

your pct is alittle weak imo. Add clomid.

Ya bro well you can either wait and get more cash and get some more and be assured of a really good result. Or...go with what you have and get a mediocre result. I personally would go with the first option.

I hate dealing with local sources. Online for me only.

And no. THAT IS NOT AN INVITATION TO FISH ME FOR SOURCES TO ANYONE READING THIS.

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by abstrack

What I dont get is that there should have been labels on the bottle or descriptions to order. I dont see how you so loose handily handed over your money based on what someone else told you.

Tell him you gave him $440.00 and he owes you a bottle.

sorrrry aah didnt know the pricing thing..... edited out!! anyway, the reason i gave the money away like that so loosely is because my pops got it for me from his trusted source and i know my dad wouldnt intentionally rip me off so i gave him the money, and he came back with that rip off bottle... my dad still thinks for some reason that its 20 shots even after i explained the dosage info on the bottle

**MMArmour** · 03-05-2009, 03:58 PM

20 injections if you are doing 1/2 ml injections twice a week. But that doesnt change your situation. For the price bro...you got hiested.

**lord henry** · 03-05-2009, 04:00 PM

well it would be 20 shot shots if youdone 1/2ml x2 per week ,or 40 shots if you done 1/4 shots 4x per week -dont do that tho.

it can also be 5 shots at 2ml per week (this is the best option)

you need another 10ml to run your cycle out at 10 weeks at 2ml(600mgs) per week.

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

20 injections if you are doing 1/2 ml injections twice a week. But that doesnt change your situation. For the price bro...you got hiested.

haha yea thats what i was thinkin 20 shots at 150mg each... dammit im so pissed now i thought i was all ready to start my cycle.. im really thinkin of just running it 300 a week, anyone have a decent idea of the different results id see at 300 vs 600 a week?

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 04:20 PM

ugh this is confusing.. now im askin my brother his opinion and hes sayin its a 20 shot bottle def and theres no doubt in his mind and he said its a misprint on the bottle that its 10 shots... how likely is that? i mean my bro is no newbie hes done prob upwards of 8+ cycles, so he knows his s**t... anyone ever had a "misprint" before?

**lord henry** · 03-05-2009, 04:24 PM

you should be alble to tell the diff betweent 10ml and 20ml if oil.

a misprint is not a good sign of a quality lab

**tripmachine** · 03-05-2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by opucknarf

ugh this is confusing.. now im askin my brother his opinion and hes sayin its a 20 shot bottle def and theres no doubt in his mind and he said its a misprint on the bottle that its 10 shots... how likely is that? i mean my bro is no newbie hes done prob upwards of 8+ cycles, so he knows his s**t... anyone ever had a "misprint" before?

why don't you take a picture of it next to an almond so we can get an idea how big the bottle is?

or....

send it to me and I will do a full evaluation on it free of charge, I feel bad you got ripped off so I'd suggest you just send it to me for the free offer...

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 03-05-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by lord henry

you should be alble to tell the diff betweent 10ml and 20ml if oil.

a misprint is not a good sign of a quality lab

very true... and i dont know the difference between 10/20 maybe im a dumba** but its my first cycle... i dont know how big a milliliter is supposed to be

**british bulldog 1** · 03-07-2009, 12:08 PM

you got mugged off bro

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