Quote Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy View Post
OK...after reading this thread, I'm lost. What was the final suppliments taken and what was the overall response?

Thanks
If you search other threads regarding theses products you will find the majority of people are satisfied, that includes me. But I used the old stuff, so now I will try the new stuff. The only thing I have ever heard negative about this is the shipping, but if there was an issues Kaioken fixed it with pay back.
I have bought all kinds of products, some have worked most have not. Now this is only my opinion so take it for what it is worth, I would try the products!