ProHormones are they the same as roids?

[redescalade100]

I have recently watched the anabolic network talking about teens and roid usage. Not a good idea is the point of the vid.

I am 19, was 18 when i took my first pro-hormone. I ran halodrol which was like halo-test for 3 weeks then ran something called alpha-drol which had 2 compounds, pheradrol(dbol) and tren(which is known as tren ha) right after halo for about 4 weeks and i threw in another double hormone, called Tokkyo Stack. Go to http://tokkyonutrition.com to see that, it has dbol and halo mix, i ran that the last 2 weeks of the alpha drol. I got off early tho, total of about 6 weeks of my first cycle. My first cycle made no sense, i got a little bit stronger, but no size. I did my pct, then a few weeks of nothing, and just recently finished my 2nd cycle, i ran american-cellular labs Tren Xtreme for 8 weeks straight, i am now 19 when i started this. I got 10 pounds and really strong off the first bottle, 2nd bottle, didnt do much. I am off now and am doing pct. I am afriad i might of effed my self after watching that video.

My balls did shrink and do hurt sometimes. Especially on HALO. My advice to anyone who doesnt like ball pain, STAY AWAY FROM HALO! but any ways i was wondering if theres anything I can do to prevent any permanent damage, such as test levesl staying low. Or if i shouldnt worry about a thing since i didnt inject anything.

let me know what u guys think

[TTexas]

Meh prohormones... Im not really a fan
Tell us about yourself. Stats and stuff bro and I bet you can find some help in the correct forums

[WARMachine]

I think at your age, ProHormones and AAS are not a good thing.

Stick with Creatine, NO2 and Tons of food at your age.

[Darksyde]

oral steroids often have worse side effects than injectables. ph's are often harsher than standard oral steroids with less beneficial effects. i think you can see where this is going.

[Mammon]

oral steroids often have worse side effects than injectables. ph's are often harsher than standard oral steroids with less beneficial effects. i think you can see where this is going.

yep.. i agree

[smokethedays]

oral steroids often have worse side effects than injectables. ph's are often harsher than standard oral steroids with less beneficial effects. i think you can see where this is going.

How so?

[Darksyde]

im not saying i know for sure, but does anything trash a lipid profile like superdrol? i have also read several reports of delayed onset gyno (3-6 months after cycle and pct) attributed to superdrol.
i think the main thing is with things like dianabol or winstrol, these compounds have been around and researched extensively for decades, so most aspects of the chemical have been well documented. some of the things ive seen sold legally in the last few years are just scary. ive seen several of these newer ph's that have 2 or 3 seperate methylated compounds in them. i think most of us know how harsh m1t was.

[TheJuicer]

The pain you felt in your nuts was your natural test shutting down. Its going to happen with AAS and Pro-Hormones. Although I have here that HCG helps to keep your own natural test going but I really dont know much about it...

[Nooomoto]

I don't like prohormones for many reasons. At your age you shouldn't be messing with your levels. Any one who tells you otherwise doesn't have your best interest in mind. Stick with a hearty diet, and lots of training for the next 4-5 years.

[redescalade100]

Ok guys thanks a lot. I knew phs were worse then real roids. I heard that from others too but never knew if it was true or not. Hopefully im not to messed up, I can get a hold of real novadex, clomid, and hcg. Any of you guys recomend me gettin on that?

I weigh 170lbs, 5'9 about 9% body fat

and what do you mean by the correct forums? Sorry just got on here

[dynamitekid]

Hey guys, I have been visiting the forum for a long time, but this is my first post.

What did you run during pct if you didn't use nolva? Many phs are strong and require the same pct as gear.

My advice to you would be to stay away from phs or gear for a few years at the very least. At your age/weight, you can stand to gain naturally with a proper diet and a solid training routine. You're too young to mess around with this stuff. How long have you been training?

I'm 6' 3" and 218, 25 years old, and waited until last year to run a ph cycle. I ran ESTs hemadrol and propadrol followed by nolva. I had a great strength increase and put on 8 solid pounds in a month. I am doing my second ph cycle currently and I am running spawn at the moment. I am 5 days in and have went up 4 pounds already.
Just my two cents. good luck, dude.

I think I am done with phs after this and I will wait a while before considering gear.

[redescalade100]

I used a natural test booster from the store i work at, and i got clomidex for my anti-estrogen by tokkyo nutrition. http://tokkyonutrition.com/tokkyo-clomidex.html

I now know that i should of used real nolvadex and clomid, my friend can get them both for $50 each, which was around what i paid for that other crap. I want to go get blood tests done, check test levels and what not, and maybe hop on real pct gear if its necessary depending on results from tests.

I started weight lifting july 1st 2008, at 130 pounds 7% body fat, not even a year yet and im at 225 bench 170lbs, ive made pretty damn solid gains, but i do not think the hormones helped to much, first cycle i didnt gain crap, the 2nd one helped a bit.

so that being said, you are right, at my age, i dont need this crap, i am done with them for good. if i ever do anything regarding anabolics, im doin real gear way later tho haha

[Darksyde]

good choice man. one thing that seems to go over all the younger guys heads these days is that building quality muscle takes time, and i don't mean a year or two. training and eating right for months and years day in day out. it is hard yes, but if it was easy everyone would be walking around looking like flex.

[dynamitekid]

well said, darksyde.

[warchild]

m1t was the best ph i ever took