Deca, Test, Winny, Tren & HGH stack plz help is my guy steering me wrong!!!???
Hello all, this is my first post, and i'm pretty nervous first of all cuz after reading alot of the material here i realize i was possibly going about this dangerously. First off, if this is in the wrong forum i apologize, i did look for the answer to the question i have but couldnt find one specific enough, and yes i read the rules. To start:
Im 23, 6'2", 195, i can bench about 300-310 for one, visually i feel like im thin for the most part, im a little bigger than most of my lil friends but dudes at the gym make me look like a poodle. I feel like i am much stronger than my physique rewards me for so a friend referred a friend to get on some gear.
Ok so i know ya'll are gonna tear me a new asshole cuz after reading here it seems ive been careless so far into this cycle, but i see now im fuk'in up and hope yall can get me on track before its too late.
Ok, So the stack this dude sold me (he calls a medium strength cycle) is 10 weeks, i think im on week 2, actually i think its 2 weeks today.... Heres the gear:
Deca 300 & Test 250 (fri and tues 600total deca 500test weekly)
Winny 175 and Tren 75 (sunday and thurs 350winny & 150tren weekly)
HGH (says its 15mg not sure he means per ui or per recommended dosage) 10ui EOD
The scary parts...: First of all, ive always been inconsistent with lifting, ill try for a few weeks maybe months and stop, however i get strong very quick, for example, this last time i decided to start lifting again i could barely get 185 for 2 or 3, and within about 4-5 weeks i was benching 255 for 6 and 305 for 1(coulda prolly got 2) On protein, rage, noxplode and a lil creatine. Since i started this cycle 3/13 i literally feel no difference, my strength is unchanged, i dont feel moody, no acne, my joints do kinda ache but then they do often from aggresive street motorcycle riding and other lil things.
Second worry, all my gear came already prep'd, in syringes, it seems professional enough, the gear is mostly in a pretty big BD rig, opened of course with the roids already drawn up, then slipped back into the original little sterile single packs with every one being marked either "test" or "deca
etc... why wouldnt he just sell me the raw material and let me go thru the trouble of getting rigs and making up the shots?
Third: i purchased half the cycle one day, 10rigs of each all of them are 1ML and the 10 of each are bundled together neatly. I bought the other half a few days later, and 10 1cc rigs of "hgh", of course, already prep'd. The wierd thing is when he brought me the other half, the deca and test were mixed in 1 rig, so instead of 1ml deca 1ml test in individual rigs it was 2ml, and slip on pack read "test\deca", what worries me is the first half of the deca and test they are both orange, or thats my opinion on the color, while the second half, the mixed ones, are pretty much completely clear. if they are 1mltest/1mldeca mixed why is this half clear and the first shit (like 3 days prior) darker/orange?
Next thing, the hgh, he says use 10ui eod, example: chest day 5ui in each peck, under the skin but above the muscle, and so on with other body parts. Well my buddy had gotten the same thing from the same friend, and he used it insanely with no direction, (1 whole cc pre workout) 25each tri 25each peck! =O So i call this fellow, and say hey man, im really not feelin shit from the hgh or the other stuff 4 that matter, how should i eat or train etc? he says nah u dont really need to eat heavy just lotsa protein when u get hungry, and he said if i want to, to use 10ui daily of the hgh. Me, being dumb, was like ah **** this and today used about 40ui, 10 around my quads and 10 in calves, still felt no focus, rush, anything else out of the oridinary.
Even better, this guy then calls and says "hey, if u can get ur boys to pick up about 800-1000$ of shit i'll throw u another exact cycle that u have for free". whooaaa wait wait, ur gonna give me ***$ in exchange for bringing u 800-1000 in business? ive sold shit before, and thats just ludacris. Was the *** for my cycle robbery?(was told to edit out prices, sorry!)
The winny burns, pretty bad, the tren very little, and the test/deca not at all but are very thick and take alot of effort to push plunger. The HGH burns real bad also, i tried warming it in my hands before use but still pretty harsh.
I dont eat right, at all, partly cuz im arrogant and dont really get fat (not much more than a small pudge if im totally outa shape), How important is nutrition and if someone has time i'd appreciate a small guide on how to eat while cycling. Also, havent seen one person on the same stack i am, care to explain? should i change my cycle up, anyone have a better more experienced guide for the next 8 weeks? I know now, i shouldnt really be on this shit cuz i'm clueless as to if he's right or even if this shits real. But its too late now i hope to at least get enough help to be safe and get the most out of all this money invested. I can probably take and show some pictures of the gear, how it was packaged and all if it would help.
If u took the time to read alllll of this, THANK YOU, i just wanted to be crystal clear on my particular situation to get the best advice from professionals if possible. Another Q, is there any generic way to find out if this shit is real? if its fake, what am i likely injecting? what damage can be caused? please if someone could shine some light, it would really save my ass, and yea i learned a lesson, next time i will research and be more cautious and thorough. Thanks in advance, *Sid*
***Sorry forgot, i'm not ur average trainer either, i usually work out 5-7 days a week since i started again around december, Im not sure if my routine is effective or even limiting my success, heres an example: chest day typically
135x10
135x10
185x5-8
205x5
225x3-5
255x3-5
275/295/or 305 for 1 or two depending on how easy other shit is going up.
then i do that lil machine press that starts kinda wide and u push inwards, to hit inner chest, and i'll usually top off with a couple sets of perfect pushup or really close grip bench about 3-4 sets of 10, (135-165lbs)
Legs today: had no spotter so no freeweight squats =[
on the leg press:
180x10
180x10
230x10
270x5
180x15
Then calf raises, leg curls, some other shit just 2 get sore... i dont wanna name all of them but if someone1 could give me a slightly intense routine, with chest twice a week, it'd be great. again thank you all and plz be prompt I dont want to keep this up if its a waste or dangerous!!
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Originally Posted by rhino1
duhhh! lol... scammer!
i dont got my cam with me but i'll put some pix up, i donno how i wiegh 200 and look like 170-180. its beyond me.
