How Does My 2nd Cycle Look

[lshadden5182]

finally got my shit all together.


Spawn- 2/3/3/3/

nolvadex-40/40/20/20/

clen


Day 1 60mcg
Day 2 60mcg
Day 3 60mcg
Day 4 80mcg
Day 5 80mcg
Day 6 80mcg
Day 7 100mcg
Day 8 100mcg
Day 9 100mcg
Day 10 120mcg
Day 11 120mcg

(yes i found that on another thread)


but my question was, can you take nolva+ clen together?

i know you take nolva at night, but can you take clen in the morning time.

(sorry for the noob question)


thanks!

[CHUCKYthentic]

yes you can run clen and nolvadex together

[LATS60]

finally got my shit all together.


Spawn- 2/3/3/3/

nolvadex-40/40/20/20/

clen


Day 1 60mcg
Day 2 60mcg
Day 3 60mcg
Day 4 80mcg
Day 5 80mcg
Day 6 80mcg
Day 7 100mcg
Day 8 100mcg
Day 9 100mcg
Day 10 120mcg
Day 11 120mcg

(yes i found that on another thread)


but my question was, can you take nolva+ clen together?

i know you take nolva at night, but can you take clen in the morning time.

(sorry for the noob question)


thanks!

Don't have to take nolva at night, take clen in morning on empty stomach yes, why you want to run nolva with the clen anyway?

[CHUCKYthentic]

think he is under the impression that clen is anti-catabolic, and will help preserve his gains during pct

i know alota guys that do it, who knows if it is beneficial or not

[LATS60]

think he is under the impression that clen is anti-catabolic, and will help preserve his gains during pct

i know alota guys that do it, who knows if it is beneficial or not

It can be if you can find the optimum dose, to much or too little either way and it's catabolictastic, didn't realise he was in PCT and if he is then nolva alone is not something i'd recommend.

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya im considering the clen thing after my next cycle, good to know

[Immortal Soldier]

Please move this to the supplement board.

As a person who used Pro-hormones heavily, they are not comparable directly to steroids especially Spawn.

[kifenehma3ak]

man why spawn if u dont want to be natural just take that real shit... dont waste ur time.

[lshadden5182]

if i was to add t3 to the mix how might i dose that and at what time?

[Immortal Soldier]

if i was to add t3 to the mix how might i dose that and at what time?

Why would you add T3? T3 would be probably take a catabolic effect on the body because Spawn is not anabolic enough to prevent it or override it.

[Anabolios]

man why spawn if u dont want to be natural just take that real shit... dont waste ur time.

What makes you say this? Do you know that a lot of these pro-hormones get banned because they are the "real shit"? Maybe he doesnt have a connection, maybe his goals or financial situation dont warrant using AAS. People have been reporting gains of 10 solid pounds or more on this compound so dont be so quick to discredit it.

To the original poster

I like your cycle layout. I like the idea of running clen in pct for a number of different reasons (not necessarily the anti-catabolic rumor which I have heard)

Does anyone have any thoughts on using clomid over nolva for a spawn pct because of the similarities to 19nor AAS??

[Immortal Soldier]

What makes you say this? Do you know that a lot of these pro-hormones get banned because they are the "real shit"? Maybe he doesnt have a connection, maybe his goals or financial situation dont warrant using AAS. People have been reporting gains of 10 solid pounds or more on this compound so dont be so quick to discredit it.

To the original poster

I like your cycle layout. I like the idea of running clen in pct for a number of different reasons (not necessarily the anti-catabolic rumor which I have heard)

Does anyone have any thoughts on using clomid over nolva for a spawn pct because of the similarities to 19nor AAS??

Spawn and Pro-Hormones only convert at about 6% of the active ingreident of the analogue hormone which tries to mimic the parent hormone it is copied from.

So I doubt any pro-hormone on the market is able to give you progesterone related gyno when the actual real mother hormone that members on here inject don't even get it when running nolva along side a 19nor.

[Anabolios]

Spawn and Pro-Hormones only convert at about 6% of the active ingreident of the analogue hormone which tries to mimic the parent hormone it is copied from.

So I doubt any pro-hormone on the market is able to give you progesterone related gyno when the actual real mother hormone that members on here inject don't even get it when running nolva along side a 19nor.

So you would say nolva would be a more appropriate pct vs. clomid?

[Immortal Soldier]

So you would say nolva would be a more appropriate pct vs. clomid?

Nolva on a mg per mg basis is more effective than clomid.

Either one would suffice and throw in both if you are a paranoid person who wants complete recovery.

I have rebounded with OTC PCT's on PH's such as SD, so nolva is more than enough for something like Spawn.

[lshadden5182]

i have been taking 1 pill for about 5 days now, already noticeable strength gains, trying to work my way up to 2 and three just to be safe about my hormones, (as i said in a last post, i did a cycle last year and started at 2 and then after a week went to three and after my cycle AND my otc pct, (i know big mistake with the OTC). were over acne went fkin ballistic had to go on accutane just trying to make sure that shit doesn't happen again, that's why i'm using Nolva this time around.

but anyways am i wasting my time just doing one seeing as nolva will bring my hormones back to normal quite efficiently as i've heard

[Immortal Soldier]

i have been taking 1 pill for about 5 days now, already noticeable strength gains, trying to work my way up to 2 and three just to be safe about my hormones, (as i said in a last post, i did a cycle last year and started at 2 and then after a week went to three and after my cycle AND my otc pct, (i know big mistake with the OTC). were over acne went fkin ballistic had to go on accutane just trying to make sure that shit doesn't happen again, that's why i'm using Nolva this time around.

but anyways am i wasting my time just doing one seeing as nolva will bring my hormones back to normal quite efficiently as i've heard

What are you trying to ask?

[lshadden5182]

sorry that reply was too long and kinda confusing.


the question is:


I'm trying to run this cycle the "safest" way i can without fkin my hormones up and just starting with one pill, today is the 5th day i've done it.


Am i wasting my time just doing one?


Will the nolva bring me back to normal if i do the recommended 2/2/3/3/ ?


i'm just worried about getting that horrible acne again, it got BAD.

[lshadden5182]

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