I am with Noles on this. I like to throw in behind te back shrugs as it seems to thicken them up better for me. MAybe it is in my mind, but the do hit differently. Also, I do rope shrugs on the machine, burn out sets starting with all the weight. Last but not least do you ever try static grip sets? Holding the shrug in the up for as long as you can? Static grip isanother useful tool in many excercises. Good luck.




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