Help with anadrol only cycle if poss please...

[eyeothetiger]

Hi guys,keeping it as simple as possible I have done two dbol only cycles so far,gained and kept solid 21 lbs as has been like 5 months since last cycle.

I am 30,5 ft 10,168lb's and well cut.

I have ordered and will be doing anadrol only as next cycle and bit unsure best way to do cycle. Please dont flame me guys,just looking for constructive help. I personally feel oral only cycles can work if done right as my gains have shown.

I have 60 50mg tabs,how am I best to run them for the cycle to be as safe as possible but also as effective as possible?. I have both milk thistle and tamoxifen on hand and I'm aware I need to take in plenty of water.

[Big]

so you were 5'10" and 147lbs when you decided to take steroids?
not many here will have anything constructive to say about dbol only or drol only cycles, why oral only? and if oral only, why not a better oral for solo use?

[eyeothetiger]

Yep 147lbs,very slim to start off with obviously. Reached my natural limit,not gonna stick needles in me and risk it. It's cool though I expected to be flamed so nevermind.

[Big]

Yep 147lbs,very slim to start off with obviously. Reached my natural limit,not gonna stick needles in me and risk it. It's cool though I expected to be flamed so nevermind.

I flamed you? I'm sorry, but you still haven't even approached your natural limit. Regardless if you are intent on oral cycles, you should look into tbol, anavar, or both. you will be much happier with the results.

[Ernst]

Big you were so mean to him. Wow. I can't believe you treat people like that.

Op, if needles weren't safe we'd all be dead by now.

[eyeothetiger]

What kind of gains could I be looking at with anavar then?,I have the option of switching the anadrol if I choose. Can get the anavar no probs so fire away....you're not mean,you know what you're talking about obviously but you do come across harsh sometimes.

[T-MOS]

big didn't flame you. if he was flaming you , he would have told you how stupid you are for thinking you are at your natural limit and how dumb using dbol only is since it WILL shut down your natural testosterone production, and how if you are AFRAID to inject then you shouldn't be messing with steroids

BUT HE DIDN"T

NOW on to your questions

at 5'10" you should easily be able to get to 190-200 lbs NATURALLY before ever even considering steroids

the problem with oral only cycles is that MOST of them will shut down your natural test production leaving your body without any testosterone. Your body NEEDS testosterone to function properly.

Tbol, and anavar are the only orals that do no suppress your natural HPTA however you need larger doses of them in order to see gains.

Testosterone is your best choice for steroids if you are going to use them. i do NOT think you are ready for them though as if you can't gain weight and keep it on your own, then it is doubtful that you will keep the gains from your oral only cycle

dbol will also add lots of water weight which you will lose after you are done using it

There is LESS risk injecting Test, then there is taking suppressive orals that will also harm your liver when taken for too long

[Big]

var will produce dryer, leaner gains, much less bloat and water weight than drol or dbol either.

[Big]

big didn't flame you. if he was flaming you , he would have told you how stupid you are for thinking you are at your natural limit and how dumb using dbol only is since it WILL shut down your natural testosterone production, and how if you are AFRAID to inject then you shouldn't be messing with steroids

BUT HE DIDN"T

NOW on to your questions

at 5'10" you should easily be able to get to 190-200 lbs NATURALLY before ever even considering steroids

the problem with oral only cycles is that MOST of them will shut down your natural test production leaving your body without any testosterone. Your body NEEDS testosterone to function properly.

Tbol, and anavar are the only orals that do no suppress your natural HPTA however you need larger doses of them in order to see gains.

Testosterone is your best choice for steroids if you are going to use them. i do NOT think you are ready for them though as if you can't gain weight and keep it on your own, then it is doubtful that you will keep the gains from your oral only cycle

dbol will also add lots of water weight which you will lose after you are done using it

There is LESS risk injecting Test, then there is taking suppressive orals that will also harm your liver when taken for too long

[T-MOS]

right back at ya Big you bully.....lolol

[eyeothetiger]

T-MOS,I understand you're point even though you come across arrogant mate. Bottom line is I've still gained 21lb's and kept it for over 5 months now so aint gonna anywhere obviously....most people on here say dbol only is shit so obviously someone is just making a general rule of thumb which is wrong,everyone's different.

I'm a solid 168lbs too,there's big difference between that and being bigger and carrying fat...I dont wanna be a fat beefcake,I wanna be a cut one. Thanks for your friendly advice though Big and may consider Anavar as makes sense. Forums are meant to be friendly not places for the big to look down on the small surely,who wants to be big when it's not a good big anyway.

[T-MOS]

awww come on now, i wasn't being arrogant... take it on the chin kid, its the internet for christ sake......lolol

still didn't explain why you dont' want to inject??

Anavar is weak, keep that in mind

Just trying to get you to see that the problem is PROBABLY your diet and that should be corrected BEFORE you start playing with the chemical makeup of your body and effecting your HPTA. My goal is to keep you healthy for a LONG time so if that makes me sound arrogant, so be it.......

[higherdesire]

Do you know DSM by chance? PM him and let him know the boys are picking on you.

Or, if you want to set aside your glaring inferiority complex for a minute and listen to the sge advice these two vets have so freely given you then maybe you can benefit. Learn to eat for gains and maintain those gains then you wil benefit MUCH more from AAS. Otherwise you willl put your body through ups and downs that are extremely hard on it.

Just for the record, you tooka dbol only cycle, put on 21 lbs of muscle and kept all of it? You lost nothing? Somebody please get guiness on the phone.

[eyeothetiger]

Ok "kid"!,well maybe step off your perch a bit and be nicer to people. Everyone is equal in this world regardless of experience or size and unless you've not noticed I dont take shit from anyone.

My point is people frown upon oral only and make very bold statements that just aren't true in terms of keeping gains. You dont know my body,I dont know yours simple as that. You seemed to skip the fact that you were completly wrong about me not keeping gains as I clearly already have.

No hard feelings but few people round here seriously need to work on social skills and I know I speak on behalf of many people when I say that...difference is I've got the balls to say it - laters.

[eyeothetiger]

higherdesire,I know what I gained and kept,I'm no liar and again who are you to call me one. I've taken Big's advice as he spoke to me propa and I know he's right,end of.

[T-MOS]

with few exceptions, the body works in ONE general way........

dbol does certain things to EVERYBODY....

oh nevermind......................

Please accept my humble apology if I have offended your intelligence in any way.
you obviously know exactly what you are talking about and we have never dealt with any of these situations before,

good luck with your oral only cycle!!
take care
please have a wonderful day and enjoy your stay here at AR

[higherdesire]

higherdesire,I know what I gained and kept,I'm no liar and again who are you to call me one. I've taken Big's advice as he spoke to me propa and I know he's right,end of.

PLease quote and highlght the part where I called you a liar bitch. I said let me get this straight. you did a dbol only cycle, gained 21 lbs, kept it all, and lost nothing? ARE ALL THREE OF THOSE TRUE STATEMENTS? If oyu say yes then I will call bullshit. My point is I was trying to get you to give the full story. Noone gains and keeps the exact amount of weight no matter what. So how much did you gain overall and how much did oyu loose to stick with tthe 21 lbs figure?

[eyeothetiger]

T-MOS thanks for that last bit,I will have a wonderful day and hope you do too. The problem here though is that most guys on here dont like being proved wrong when they all make sweeping statements that are not true for everyone clearly. They also dont like it when someone stands upto them,sorry but tough shit - laters :-).

[T-MOS]

how was I proved wrong??

the sweeping statement is that dbol WILL suppress your Natural HPTA
and MOST of the weight gain from Dbol only is WATER BLOAT

prove that wrong please

[eyeothetiger]

I got some business to take care of in the bedroom and would much rather be doing that than repeat myself but in short 21lb's I gained and kept from two short dbol only cycles clearly wasn't water was it,I've kept it for 5 months...what is it,floating around in me somewhere?!. Also no-one has actually answered my question,I didn't ask for an alternative cycle or flaming over dbol,I asked how to run a anadrol only cycle...I will find out elsewhere. Even when people apologise on here it's not genuine so forget it,I'm gonna go get jiggy with it - laters.

[Big]

Also no-one has actually answered my question,I didn't ask for an alternative cycle or flaming over dbol,I asked how to run a anadrol only cycle...

gee, sorry that rather than tell you how to do something wrong I suggested a better way. in any event if you would have simply read the profile you could have answered your own question. I won't even bother with pct, I've wasted enough time on you.

[Bench Machine]

Some people you just cant help. Why do they ask if they dont want to listen to anyone here.Good luck keeping your water gains with a androl ONLY cycle.

[Big]

Wow, I just reviewed all of your past threads. I especially liked the thread from a year ago which you titled:

"Ok you guys made up my mind,test it is - help pinning tho if poss,what do I need?..."

as well as the threads telling us that you had decided on sust, on test c, on prop, etc.
those threads were following your various threads asking about dbol only or drol only cycles.
there are over a dozen threads where you describe your upcoming injectable cycle and ask for advice. you're chasing your tail.

[T-MOS]

Wow, I just reviewed all of your past threads. I especially liked the thread from a year ago which you titled:

"Ok you guys made up my mind,test it is - help pinning tho if poss,what do I need?..."

as well as the threads telling us that you had decided on sust, on test c, on prop, etc.
those threads were following your various threads asking about dbol only or drol only cycles.
there are over a dozen threads where you describe your upcoming injectable cycle and ask for advice. you're chasing your tail.

[Bench Machine]

Did you read the one where he kept 25pounds on his first dbol only cycle and was going to do a second dbol cycle at 15 to 20mg for 10 weeks. Kept all his gains my a$$.

[WARMachine]

T-MOS,I understand you're point even though you come across arrogant mate. Bottom line is I've still gained 21lb's and kept it for over 5 months now so aint gonna anywhere obviously....most people on here say dbol only is shit so obviously someone is just making a general rule of thumb which is wrong,everyone's different.

I'm a solid 168lbs too,there's big difference between that and being bigger and carrying fat...I dont wanna be a fat beefcake,I wanna be a cut one. Thanks for your friendly advice though Big and may consider Anavar as makes sense. Forums are meant to be friendly not places for the big to look down on the small surely,who wants to be big when it's not a good big anyway.

Oh WOW!

[Darksyde]

busted and disgusted

[WARMachine]

Thats a sick ass avy.

I love Taxi Driver.

[DFDub]

So why is it that you don't want to inject? You still haven't explained.
Just for reference I am 5'6"...was about 130 lbs back in the day. I started training and eating right and reached 166 naturally. I am not "soft" at all...I am cut up.
I am not trying to beat you down but you have a long way to go before you reach your genetic potential.

[Darksyde]

Thats a sick ass avy.

I love Taxi Driver.

i usually feel like that after reading a half dozen threads in the q&a section

[WARMachine]

^ lol so do I.

[eyeothetiger]

:-),well it made for good reading anyway. As if I'm gonna do Anadrol only and do no pct lol,and as if I'm gonna do anadrol only at all now after all that's been said. Think there's bit too much test flying round here,fk me I was getting it from all directions!. Thanks for the advice,it has registered with me and will act on it. All I will say is try not to flame guys who are nervous to inject fellas,it's not something that can be rushed or taken lightly even though I know it may makes sense. Laters and peace :-).