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    Its like the blind leading the blind in this thread...

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    Pretty much...but I knew there would be some who say its perfectly ok.

    Why would one do a tren only cycle to begin with?? If you dont like test just do a replacement dose.


    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    Its like the blind leading the blind in this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    Its like the blind leading the blind in this thread...
    im just not big on following what people say just because alot of people on here are saying it. This board tends to do that,, a few people with 10,000 post say one thing about something and the next thing you know 500 other people think its the bible even though it may or may not be right. From just reading on this board i know tren alone is bad but from my real life exp with other friends doing it i saw no such effects. My exp is limited and i know 90%of info from exp posters on this board is legit and good but that doesnt mean i will automatically except it as right. That being said i still would never do tren alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    im just not big on following what people say just because alot of people on here are saying it. This board tends to do that,, a few people with 10,000 post say one thing about something and the next thing you know 500 other people think its the bible even though it may or may not be right. From just reading on this board i know tren alone is bad but from my real life exp with other friends doing it i saw no such effects. My exp is limited and i know 90%of info from exp posters on this board is legit and good but that doesnt mean i will automatically except it as right. That being said i still would never do tren alone.

    Oh and i agree with you. That kinda thing does happen here quite a bit. But what i dont do is just blindly say "Oh i dont agree." or "I dont believe that is true." Instead, i challenge the 'standards' and accepted protocals here on this board.

    Case in point is my thread on gyno treatment. I disliked C Bino's method for quite some time after it failed for a close friend of mine. So i began research and all but disproved its effectiveness. (No offense to anyone.)

    (Here they are for those interested)

    WARMachine's thread on Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

    C Bino's Gyno Reversal Thread
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

    But to sit there and say Tren only cycles are ok and ve never experienced sides so i dont agree with the protocal is a bit shortsighted.

    Research and scientific facts mean more to me than firsthand knowledge. Though both are important.

    (No offense to you Chuck, i just wanted to get the point across for those others who just blindly accept standards and others who dont do any research to back their claims.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post

    Oh and i agree with you. That kinda thing does happen here quite a bit. But what i dont do is just blindly say "Oh i dont agree." or "I dont believe that is true." Instead, i challenge the 'standards' and accepted protocals here on this board.

    Case in point is my thread on gyno treatment. I disliked C Bino's method for quite some time after it failed for a close friend of mine. So i began research and all but disproved its effectiveness. (No offense to anyone.)

    (Here they are for those interested)

    WARMachine's thread on Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

    C Bino's Gyno Reversal Thread
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

    But to sit there and say Tren only cycles are ok and ve never experienced sides so i dont agree with the protocal is a bit shortsighted.

    Research and scientific facts mean more to me than firsthand knowledge. Though both are important.

    (No offense to you Chuck, i just wanted to get the point across for those others who just blindly accept standards and others who dont do any research to back their claims.)

    oh none taken and i knew you know your shite,, i was just pickin a post to reply to at random. I tried cbinos treatment and it didnt work,, just made me cranky like a chick on the rag but my gyno wasnt from steriods so no tellin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post

    Oh and i agree with you. That kinda thing does happen here quite a bit. But what i dont do is just blindly say "Oh i dont agree." or "I dont believe that is true." Instead, i challenge the 'standards' and accepted protocals here on this board.

    Case in point is my thread on gyno treatment. I disliked C Bino's method for quite some time after it failed for a close friend of mine. So i began research and all but disproved its effectiveness. (No offense to anyone.)

    (Here they are for those interested)

    WARMachine's thread on Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

    C Bino's Gyno Reversal Thread
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

    But to sit there and say Tren only cycles are ok and ve never experienced sides so i dont agree with the protocal is a bit shortsighted.

    Research and scientific facts mean more to me than firsthand knowledge. Though both are important.

    (No offense to you Chuck, i just wanted to get the point across for those others who just blindly accept standards and others who dont do any research to back their claims.)
    Yeh I never liked the letro idea either. The studies all suggest the effectiveness of Tamoxifen and Raloxifene. Letro removes more estrogen from the body, but serms specifically target the chest so it should be fairly obvious that they are superior for the job. The problem is, you would need to run a serm for probably 6 months to get a decent improvement, and most people dont know/do that.

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