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    Excellent thanks for the posts gentlemen. I'm going to go the route as I had originally thought a while back, 2000mcg a week split up into two injections. I guess i'll do it with my test/mast.

    My only other question, which should be my last, is this. I know the delt you are supposed to go to a max of 2cc's...some people go higher. I'm of medium build and I am currently shooting 1.5 cc's in my delt no problem. I would prob stay with the recommended and not exceed 2 cc's. Is this 2 cc's strictly oil based steroids or simply everything?

    My thought now is to take the original 1.5 cc's of test/mast and add 1 cc of the b12 which is basically water like. Would this be an issue? I know it wont be with the quads, just concerned with the delts.

    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaGiCJNG View Post
    Excellent thanks for the posts gentlemen. I'm going to go the route as I had originally thought a while back, 2000mcg a week split up into two injections. I guess i'll do it with my test/mast.

    My only other question, which should be my last, is this. I know the delt you are supposed to go to a max of 2cc's...some people go higher. I'm of medium build and I am currently shooting 1.5 cc's in my delt no problem. I would prob stay with the recommended and not exceed 2 cc's. Is this 2 cc's strictly oil based steroids or simply everything?

    My thought now is to take the original 1.5 cc's of test/mast and add 1 cc of the b12 which is basically water like. Would this be an issue? I know it wont be with the quads, just concerned with the delts.

    Thanks guys!
    Health care professional here so I gotta say;

    1. There aint no need for injecting B12 if you can absorb it PO (orally). The only time you would really NEED an injection is if you have pernicious anemia. Pernicious anemia is caused by not having the intrinsic factor in your gastric tract. Anemia would clearly be present in this case. The primary sign we can all see in anemia; pallor and possibly jaundice.

    2. Dont be ****in shooting testosterone just to body build. What are you trying to do have a heart attack? Testosterone after metabolism breaks down into three bad things primarily; estrogen, cholesterol and DHT.

    Lets evaluate the three main breakdown products; DHT makes you ****in go bald! Estrogen makes you grow tits like a woman! Cholesterol at high levels... will cause atherosclerosis arterioschlerosis and eventually MI(myocardial infarction- a ****ing heart attack).

    Now you can get around some of these side effects like estrogen blockers and things to boost Testosterone at the end of your cycle(HcG) - so your muscles dont melt. But you cannot get around cardiopathogenic effects; megalocardia (a heart the size of king kong) means your heart will eventually be so inefficient at supplying fresh blood to your tissues... or worse stop working at all. High cholestrol isnt good either and raises all your risk factors where the heart is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yahyahyah View Post
    Health care professional here so I gotta say;

    1. There aint no need for injecting B12 if you can absorb it PO (orally). The only time you would really NEED an injection is if you have pernicious anemia. Pernicious anemia is caused by not having the intrinsic factor in your gastric tract. Anemia would clearly be present in this case. The primary sign we can all see in anemia; pallor and possibly jaundice.

    2. Dont be ****in shooting testosterone just to body build. What are you trying to do have a heart attack? Testosterone after metabolism breaks down into three bad things primarily; estrogen, cholesterol and DHT.

    Lets evaluate the three main breakdown products; DHT makes you ****in go bald! Estrogen makes you grow tits like a woman! Cholesterol at high levels... will cause atherosclerosis arterioschlerosis and eventually MI(myocardial infarction- a ****ing heart attack).

    Now you can get around some of these side effects like estrogen blockers and things to boost Testosterone at the end of your cycle(HcG) - so your muscles dont melt. But you cannot get around cardiopathogenic effects; megalocardia (a heart the size of king kong) means your heart will eventually be so inefficient at supplying fresh blood to your tissues... or worse stop working at all. High cholestrol isnt good either and raises all your risk factors where the heart is concerned.
    Holy shit man ive done a couple cycles of test before and was on the board looking at what i wanna do for a third cycle but i think im gonna stop while im ahead because my heart does seem like it beats heavier now. thanks for spending the time to write that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yahyahyah View Post
    Health care professional here so I gotta say;

    1. There aint no need for injecting B12 if you can absorb it PO (orally). The only time you would really NEED an injection is if you have pernicious anemia. Pernicious anemia is caused by not having the intrinsic factor in your gastric tract. Anemia would clearly be present in this case. The primary sign we can all see in anemia; pallor and possibly jaundice.

    2. Dont be ****in shooting testosterone just to body build. What are you trying to do have a heart attack? Testosterone after metabolism breaks down into three bad things primarily; estrogen, cholesterol and DHT.

    Lets evaluate the three main breakdown products; DHT makes you ****in go bald! Estrogen makes you grow tits like a woman! Cholesterol at high levels... will cause atherosclerosis arterioschlerosis and eventually MI(myocardial infarction- a ****ing heart attack).

    Now you can get around some of these side effects like estrogen blockers and things to boost Testosterone at the end of your cycle(HcG) - so your muscles dont melt. But you cannot get around cardiopathogenic effects; megalocardia (a heart the size of king kong) means your heart will eventually be so inefficient at supplying fresh blood to your tissues... or worse stop working at all. High cholestrol isnt good either and raises all your risk factors where the heart is concerned.
    That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. If you BB with intelligence you can eat properly, take the proper supplements and live healthy while on juice. What do you think HRT is? It is more dangerous to have low testosterone than above normal test levels. Steroid abuse may cause those things you're saying but in rare cases. A lot of times BB's don't really take care of themselves. They forget that the heart is a muscle and it needs to be worked out as well aka C!A!R!D!I!O!!!! I guess all of the pros should drop dead of enlarged hearts??? C'mon... Again Abuse of anything can cause your organs to over compensate. This is why the real gentleman on here lift for life with intelligence. Now if you're taking grams of test and super physiological amounts of hgh and other things and are going to Mcdonalds, Burger king, Jack in the box etc then you should expect adverse effects nonetheless if you're eating enough greens and the right kind of proteins and good fats you're going to be JUST FINE! There are more people on gear than you think. From military to the regular gym rat. If it is so bad show me the bodies. I am talking about people who died legitimately from AAS only. Not pain killers or anti depressants, diuretics, or any other pharmaceuticals just AAS. you can't find them. If you're a MD, you should know that the the government of the USA will never allow conducted research on AAS ever. It is because of what it can do for those who are sick and dying that is good rather than bad. A person with aids takes Test or Primo in Europe for muscle wasting diseases and they regained their weight and health but a healthy person takes Test and die??????????????? Please stop....

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