this is my first cycle.

[joenuts77]

I am 6'5'' and about 338. i was a former offensive lineman and i am lookin for some suggestions on losing weight and cutting up. i recently aquired some estanozolol 50 or winstrol. what should my diet be and how should i take the winny?

[Big]

Welcome.
What is your body fat%?

[joenuts77]

dammit i dont know

[WARMachine]

Welcome.
What is your body fat%?

Big factor...

[joenuts77]

how do i find out

[WARMachine]

dammit i dont know

Guesstimate?


20%? 30%?


Not for nothing, but im sure its upwards of 20%.

The best way is a skin caliper youd find at the gym.

There are some electro ways, but w/e you can find for now...

[joenuts77]

ya its probably about 20-25% i guess

[jbm]

ya its probably about 20-25% i guess

Diet and cardio bro!

[WARMachine]

age ?
height 6'5
weight 338
bf% 25%
diet summary/# meals per day Go into detail. Include macros as well! ?
years lifting / workout split ?
cycle experience ?
pct/estrogen control knowledge ?
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) ?

[joenuts77]

okay cool what can or cant i eat i hear so many different things

[joenuts77]

well im 28 and i play football for almost 20 yrs since i was eight i been out for about a year so i been in da weightroom never on a cycle though

[WARMachine]

Pro ball?

Any testing issues?

[joenuts77]

i eat about two to three meals a day work out twice a week around work.

[joenuts77]

used to be pro not anymore unfortionatly

[joenuts77]

no testing issues i wanna get down to at least 300 and build my strength and get more definition

[Big]

i eat about two to three meals a day work out twice a week around work.

you should head to the diet forum and square that away first.

[WARMachine]

And drop BF% i assume?


Well firstly, i gotta tell you, no one is going to advise a cycle for someone over 15% BF for fear of some serious ERSEs.


I suggest you make a trip to the diet section.

[joenuts77]

oh okay what should i do wit my winny

[Big]

oh okay what should i do wit my winny

put it in a drawer and save it. it keeps.

[joenuts77]

do i need some test too or what

[WARMachine]

Hold onto it until youre ready for a cycle.

Trust me bro, i know youre thinking were just some guys on the internet, but youll thank us in the long run...

[joenuts77]

my last question is when do i start a cycle bro

[Big]

below 15% body fat

[Alphatier]

You can cycle once you drop your bf% to around 12-15% bro!

The higher your bodyfat, the more prone you are to estrogen related side effects and your blood pressure is also a concern!

[joenuts77]

thanks alot fellas

[ace001]

i eat about two to three meals a day work out twice a week around work.

You should probably be eating 7-8 Meals a day. I normally dont count macros and definately no carbs after 7 pm. You will be amazed what kind of changes you can make just by following a diet. Stick with it for at least 3 mos.

[lovbyts]

For someone who was pro Im surprised you dont know more about diet and exercise. You should be working out 5x a week and eating 6+ meals a day. With your size LOTs of cardio also. Get that body fat down and dont look for short cuts, the only short cut is healthy food and exercise/cardio.

Keep you stuff in a drawer until needed like in 1yr of good workout and diet. Dont expect things to happen overnight.

[shadow21]

For someone who was pro Im surprised you dont know more about diet and exercise. You should be working out 5x a week and eating 6+ meals a day. With your size LOTs of cardio also. Get that body fat down and dont look for short cuts, the only short cut is healthy food and exercise/cardio.

Keep you stuff in a drawer until needed like in 1yr of good workout and diet. Dont expect things to happen overnight.

my thoughts exactly..

Diet,cardio, 5-7 meals a day, 4-6 times of working out a week.
They should of thought you that..