Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
Few really good points in this post and one that I believe needs a caveat.

Dieting to get "gym lean" and dieting for a show are two totally different animals and as Bino stated trying to get sub 5% bodyfat requires more than just by the numbers dieting. Setting up a diet for someone is a fairly straightforward task. J3 does an excellent job at this and as he stated he is merely laying the foundation for base diet. What takes time and practice is learning what dietary adjustments each individual needs to continue progressing.

I agree with Bino on the the calorie requirements being lowered and maintaining lean tissue ONLY if they are using AAS. Natural bodybuilders or anyone else seeking to get into that 5-6% range without AAS will almost always have to keep calories higher to maintain muscle mass.
Thanks for backing that up my man. I truly think people overestimate the calories they need in that last crucial stage to really get stage ready.