tren e only?

[PureBred731]

hey,

a few friends of mine are going to start running tren ethenate by itself at 300mg/week. they want me to do it too. it seems alot better then test, its androgenic, so it has no estrogen, so no gyno. it will hit the balls hard... so iv been reading about HCG and nolva and clomid.

my friend is 20 and he just wants to run nolva after, he thinks that and his naturally high young teen test will bring his balls back and thats its the old guys who arent in their prime who hit the PCT so hard. he said one of his friends did tren for 4 months with no PCT and kept most of his gains and his balls came back in like 3 weeks. as soon as he read that HCG is too high a dose can permanetly kill the LH cells he refuses to even try it.

just asking advice on running Tren E only, and PCT.

[hankdiesel]

How old are you? 20 also? How about just give us all your stats.

[AllPumpedUp]

Tren is great but it is hard on your system. Let your buddy do whatever the hell he wants! When he is on TRT at the ripe old ae of 23-24 you will know why!

[stpete]

Age
Height
Weight
Cycle Experience (i think i know the answer to this one)
Workout Knowledge

These would be very helpful for us to help you best.

[juicer269]

bad idea!!! you some sort of test as a base- and if you're only 20( and half way smart), you'll forget about any cycle for the next 5 years.

[Big]

maybe he could follow it with the letro only pct you suggested in your other thread. sorry but this is yet another awful idea.

[seriousmass]

Tren-E for your first time on Tren? hahahaha. oh god. have fun with the sides. even if you stop after a week, you will still have insomnia, nightsweats, etc for weeks until the long ester clears lol.

[Hephens]

hey,

a few friends of mine are going to start running tren ethenate by itself at 300mg/week. they want me to do it too. it seems alot better then test, its androgenic, so it has no estrogen, so no gyno. it will hit the balls hard... so iv been reading about HCG and nolva and clomid.

my friend is 20 and he just wants to run nolva after, he thinks that and his naturally high young teen test will bring his balls back and thats its the old guys who arent in their prime who hit the PCT so hard. he said one of his friends did tren for 4 months with no PCT and kept most of his gains and his balls came back in like 3 weeks. as soon as he read that HCG is too high a dose can permanetly kill the LH cells he refuses to even try it.

just asking advice on running Tren E only, and PCT.

Man tell your friend that it does cause gyno and he will start milking everywhere cause tren causes progesterone gyno which is WORSE! at least tell him to get some letro or vit b6, to help keep prolactin down.

[sigman roid]

Tren-E for your first time on Tren? hahahaha. oh god. have fun with the sides. even if you stop after a week, you will still have insomnia, nightsweats, etc for weeks until the long ester clears lol.

agreed terrible idea^^^^^

[lovbyts]

No he is not 20, why do you guys assume that???

His stats.

about to be 18 in 2 months
5'8
130 pounds
11% body fat

Now dont you feel bad for accusing him of being 20?

[Brown Ninja]

I feel bad that he is so supid. Don't listen to your friends

[RANA]

Tren and NO test? Bad idea!

[Matt]

I feel bad that he is so supid. Don't listen to your friends

Hahaha, he would be even more stupid if he couldnt spell stupid lol....

[RANA]

Hahaha, he would be even more stupid if he couldnt spell stupid lol....

Good one Mate...lol

[hankdiesel]

17 and wants wants to take tren......damn

[PureBred731]

no i am not 17. that was over a year ago when i was firsting looking into my first test cycle. i am almost 19 now. im 5'7 and 150 still with 10% body fat. im a runner with a high metabalism, im trying to bulk. i eat steak and chicken and i drink over 3,000 calories and 100 grams of protein a day in shakes alone. i also take creatin, and iv tried about everything in GNC. right now im just taking a sports multivitamine and creatine and protein, and milk thistle.

even if i dont run the tren, my buddies still will, so this isnt just for me, its to help them also. so help me to help them then at least.

iv tried telling him to use clomid while on and then use HCG between his last shot and his PCT start time, then to use nolva. but he doesnt want to use HCG. he just wants to use nolva and wait. whats the worst that can happen? he will have night sweats for weeks and loose his gains before his balls start working again?

[mgern527]

OMFG....

[Polska]

no i am not 17. that was over a year ago when i was firsting looking into my first test cycle. i am almost 19 now. im 5'7 and 150 still with 10% body fat. im a runner with a high metabalism, im trying to bulk. i eat steak and chicken and i drink over 3,000 calories and 100 grams of protein a day in shakes alone.

You drink 3,000 calories w/ 100g of protein? That's only 400 calories, what are the other 2,600 coming from? How many carbs and fats do you take in in a day? Do yourself a favor and skip over to the DIET FORUM before you even think about doing anything else. Regardless of the fact that you're TOO YOUNG, at 5'7 and 150 lbs you are TOO SMALL. You need to eat properly to grow. How do I know you're not eating properly? You're 150 lbs.

even if i dont run the tren, my buddies still will, so this isnt just for me, its to help them also. so help me to help them then at least.

iv tried telling him to use clomid while on and then use HCG between his last shot and his PCT start time, then to use nolva. but he doesnt want to use HCG. he just wants to use nolva and wait. whats the worst that can happen? he will have night sweats for weeks and loose his gains before his balls start working again?

Clomid while on is a terrible recommendation. HCG is not totally necessary for recovery. He doesn't have to use it. I would recommend a strong AI like Aromasin coupled with Nolvadex for PCT. And what's the worst that can happen? He'll lose all his gains and not recover 100% , ever. Most peoples endocrine system is never quite the same after touching the sauce. He may find his sex drive in the toilet and gains may be harder to come by than before he did his cycle. He might end up on permanent testosterone replacement therapy in his twenties.

[Polska]

Oh yeah and if your "buddies" were good friends they would not be peer pressuring you into using drugs.

[_CrossroadS_]

Am I the only one that wants to stick it in Polska's avvy's pooper...

Wait why am I in this thread again? Oh yeah, don't do drugs mmmkkkk???

[amcon]

Oh yeah and if your "buddies" were good friends they would not be peer pressuring you into using drugs.

polska i love you man

[marcus300]

no i am not 17. that was over a year ago when i was firsting looking into my first test cycle. i am almost 19 now. im 5'7 and 150 still with 10% body fat. im a runner with a high metabalism, im trying to bulk. i eat steak and chicken and i drink over 3,000 calories and 100 grams of protein a day in shakes alone. i also take creatin, and iv tried about everything in GNC. right now im just taking a sports multivitamine and creatine and protein, and milk thistle.

even if i dont run the tren, my buddies still will, so this isnt just for me, its to help them also. so help me to help them then at least.

iv tried telling him to use clomid while on and then use HCG between his last shot and his PCT start time, then to use nolva. but he doesnt want to use HCG. he just wants to use nolva and wait. whats the worst that can happen? he will have night sweats for weeks and loose his gains before his balls start working again?

19yrs old and you want to do Tren only, dont be so bloody stupid, do you really think the risk is worth taking at your age, have you any idea what damage you can cause,

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

[RANA]

19yrs old and you want to do Tren only, dont be so bloody stupid, do you really think the risk is worth taking at your age, have you any idea what damage you can cause,

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

^^^Agree^^^
At your age this is the last thing you need to do. Stop running and look in the diet forum. Tren on cycle will only screw you up, especially at your age. Drinking 3,000 cals a day? Eat not drink it!

[Polska]

polska i love you man

You just love me for my avvy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[_CrossroadS_]

I can't stop staring, it's hypnotic...dammit...

[Ashop]

hey,

a few friends of mine are going to start running tren ethenate by itself at 300mg/week. they want me to do it too. it seems alot better then test, its androgenic, so it has no estrogen, so no gyno. it will hit the balls hard... so iv been reading about HCG and nolva and clomid.

my friend is 20 and he just wants to run nolva after, he thinks that and his naturally high young teen test will bring his balls back and thats its the old guys who arent in their prime who hit the PCT so hard. he said one of his friends did tren for 4 months with no PCT and kept most of his gains and his balls came back in like 3 weeks. as soon as he read that HCG is too high a dose can permanetly kill the LH cells he refuses to even try it.

just asking advice on running Tren E only, and PCT.

I would never run TREN solo in a cycle EVER! Always run some additional testosterone. At the young age of 20 your freind should reconsider. I bet his natural hormone level is roaring.

[PureBred731]

how about this then

test prop 500mg/week
tren ethenate 300mg/week
arimidex .25mg EOD

PCT-3 weeks after last injection
nolva 50mg ED
clomid 150mg ED

i figure the prop will be fast, and the ethenate will be long, so ill kinda have a jump start and a ballance. then the adex will help keep sides minimal and then the PCT will clear it all up.

or..

test e 500mg week
d-bol 50mg ED

pct 50mg ED nolva and 150mg ED clomid

[DEE151]

no i am not 17. that was over a year ago when i was firsting looking into my first test cycle. i am almost 19 now. im 5'7 and 150 still with 10% body fat. im a runner with a high metabalism, im trying to bulk. i eat steak and chicken and i drink over 3,000 calories and 100 grams of protein a day in shakes alone. i also take creatin, and iv tried about everything in GNC. right now im just taking a sports multivitamine and creatine and protein, and milk thistle.

even if i dont run the tren, my buddies still will, so this isnt just for me, its to help them also. so help me to help them then at least.

iv tried telling him to use clomid while on and then use HCG between his last shot and his PCT start time, then to use nolva. but he doesnt want to use HCG. he just wants to use nolva and wait. whats the worst that can happen? he will have night sweats for weeks and loose his gains before his balls start working again?

lol almost 19 bro there is no need for that just say your 18 all ya 1 more thing your to YOUNG for AAS

[stpete]

You drink 3,000 calories w/ 100g of protein? That's only 400 calories, what are the other 2,600 coming from? How many carbs and fats do you take in in a day? Do yourself a favor and skip over to the DIET FORUM before you even think about doing anything else. Regardless of the fact that you're TOO YOUNG, at 5'7 and 150 lbs you are TOO SMALL. You need to eat properly to grow. How do I know you're not eating properly? You're 150 lbs.

Clomid while on is a terrible recommendation. HCG is not totally necessary for recovery. He doesn't have to use it. I would recommend a strong AI like Aromasin coupled with Nolvadex for PCT. And what's the worst that can happen? He'll lose all his gains and not recover 100% , ever. Most peoples endocrine system is never quite the same after touching the sauce. He may find his sex drive in the toilet and gains may be harder to come by than before he did his cycle. He might end up on permanent testosterone replacement therapy in his twenties.

I'm sorry guys but i had to say that Polska's avi is the best!!! Sorry op.
Oh yea, op, get to the diet section asap.

[ninesecz]

the trouble is it sounds like your friends think they know it all so no matter what we suggest they will just do what they are gonna do anyway! That is how it works! Usually takes something horrible for them to learn what they need to learn.

[Polska]

how about this then

test prop 500mg/week
tren ethenate 300mg/week
arimidex .25mg EOD

PCT-3 weeks after last injection
nolva 50mg ED
clomid 150mg ED

i figure the prop will be fast, and the ethenate will be long, so ill kinda have a jump start and a ballance. then the adex will help keep sides minimal and then the PCT will clear it all up.

or..

test e 500mg week
d-bol 50mg ED

pct 50mg ED nolva and 150mg ED clomid

You're ****en nuts bro. Is anything everyone's been telling you even getting into your ****en head? Don't cycle at 19. You're wasting your time, money, health.... I did my first cycle at 20 and I wish I could go back in time and talk myself out of it. I'd be a lot bigger now had I not done that cycle.