Weekend Warriors

[xnotoriousx]

Ok, as much as I try and try, the weekend sucks me into eating 1-2 cheat meals a day and a some brews.

I still see progress, I do perfect mon-fri but then it never fails.


How bad does this REALLY hurt or slow progress?

[sizerp]

Ok, as much as I try and try, the weekend sucks me into eating 1-2 cheat meals a day and a some brews.

I still see progress, I do perfect mon-fri but then it never fails.


How bad does this REALLY hurt or slow progress?

Depends on you personally - if your body can handle a few extra cheat meals and brews and still gain - that's cool. Some people can't, or fail miserably without consistancy.

Only you can answer this quesiton - try stopping the drinking and partyin on the weekends and see where you go from there - you may find it makes no difference, or all the difference in the world.

[xnotoriousx]

see i've only went 2 weeks without pulling the weekend warrior out though so I really don't know how much better the results could be. I've gained nicely though. Just not sure on how bad i'm messing up progress.

[Reed]

Depends on how many brews you're drinking, thats the part that would mess me up. Going to to get shit faced and drunk just like the rest of the them will slow progress. 1-2 brews is fine but how many of us young guys only drunk 1-2 in a night

I noticed once I stopped the weekend warrior thing my gains just shot through the roof. However my goals are different then most. Just depends what exactly you want and how bad you want it.

[eatrainrest]

yea im going to have to give way sometime back to my weekend warrior ways just holding on for dear life.. lol

[kaptainkeezy04]

It is your life, and you need to know what you want to do with it. Some people enjoy being perfect with their meals, and vitamins, and giving up their social life, and others are perfect all week, and like to cut loose on the weekends and have a good time with their friends. I prefer the second, but that is just me. Maybe you can set a goal for yourself. Allow yourself 1 or 2 weekends a month to go crazy, and at least that way you can have it planned out, and not worry about it as much. When I know the weekend warrior needs to come out of his cage, I call up all my friends well in advance, and we all go out and have a good time for the weekend, or plan a lil camping trip or something, that way it was a weekend well spent, and I never have any regrets. I never just aimlessly decide to go out and hit the club randomly, though.

[eatrainrest]

my friends want to go out and get wasted every night!... tempting

[sizerp]

my friends want to go out and get wasted every night!... tempting

Think of all the money you spend at the bar - it could be food or gear instead! Tempting in some respects, but the hangovers and brokeness suck.

[makod]

Ive been 18 (legal age) for about 7 months and have gone clubbing about 4-6 times.

Realistically in Sydney you need ATLEAST $200 for a basic night. Drinks are $6-10, and it takes me atleast 5-6 drinks to get going, then you might want to buy a round of drinks, club entry, taxis, food, etc.. And at the end of the night if you dont end up with a lady you go to bed feeling like shit and alot poorer.

Don't get me wrong we all need to let loose but in moderation.

[xo3et]

I just had a mad night out, today i have eaten sod and I feel like C**p.

BUT.... This is the first weekend i have gone out in around 8weeks

I say maybe 1 weekend in a month, if you go out more then dont drink and concentrate on diet to adjust for the late night etc

[Bio-boosted]

I've been out twice in the last 8-10 weeks and i've shed 7%bf by killing those cals.
I used to drink twice a week, sometimes more

[energizer bunny]

my friends want to go out and get wasted every night!... tempting

In exactly the same boat... my mates phone me all the time wanting me to party... must admit i give in sometimes... since ive not been working.

[xnotoriousx]

It's not even going out to the clubs. Just out fishing, hanging out, watching ufc fights and just eating whatever and having a few beers and maybe a couple shots.

I mean it's a ritual with me and my friends i've grown up with.


I can't go more then 2 weeks without doing it. I do try to keep a mind about myself, i'm not talking self destruction here just more or less not sticking to the diet for the weekend but then going right back to the book. How bad does the lifestyle of the weekend warrior hurt your gains?

Who's been on both sides of the court?

[jamyjamjr]

what kind of diet are you on?? what are your stats?? do you do refeed days??

[xnotoriousx]

25 6'3 195lbs

I'm on this clean cal diet mon-fri then on sat-sun I eat whatever whenever and maybe put back a few
Meal 1
Cup Whites 2 whole eggs - Cup of oats or Cup of Kashi Flax cerial with 2 tbs natty pb

PRO 45
CARB 60
FAT 21

Meal 2
chicken, Yam

PWO Shake Whey+Oatsw/blueberries
PRO 50g
CARB 60g

PRO 40
CARB 50


Meal 3
chicken, yam

PRO 40
CARB 50

Meal 4
93% Beef, whole wheat pasta, broc tomato sauce

PRO 40
CARB 55
FAT 15




Meal 5
1 1/2 cans Tuna, 2 sliced wheat bread, low sodium v8

PRO 36
CARB 40
FAT 4

Meal 6
FF Cottage Cheese, 2 tbs omga natty pb

PRO 30
CARB 7
FAT 20

TOTAL
PRO 281
CARB 322
FAT 56

[jamyjamjr]

any idea what your bmr and tdee is?? i also need your bf.


what if i said u could pig out once a week?? i need more info to be sure..

[collar]

i have been training for thirteen years now, and i dont drink or any of that stuff and never have.

when bulking, alow about 2-3 meals a week, but when cutting or maintain my cut look.

i would eat according to diet plan, then sat night just go out with my girl have a nice dinner, where i can really enjoy my food.

then we start all over again hehe.

[xnotoriousx]

Here is a pic taken today, just normal. I think my BF might be 12% Could be more i'm no expert.

I forgot what my bmr and tdee is, I forgot how to do it again also.

[eatrainrest]

Ive been 18 (legal age) for about 7 months and have gone clubbing about 4-6 times.

Realistically in Sydney you need ATLEAST $200 for a basic night. Drinks are $6-10, and it takes me atleast 5-6 drinks to get going, then you might want to buy a round of drinks, club entry, taxis, food, etc.. And at the end of the night if you dont end up with a lady you go to bed feeling like shit and alot poorer.

Don't get me wrong we all need to let loose but in moderation.

its called pregame my boy.... drink it up go tot he bar and youll only buy one drink

[eatrainrest]

Here is a pic taken today, just normal. I think my BF might be 12% Could be more i'm no expert.

I forgot what my bmr and tdee is, I forgot how to do it again also.

the fish covers what we kinda need to see but looks to be aroudn 13 roughly

[eatrainrest]

Think of all the money you spend at the bar - it could be food or gear instead! Tempting in some respects, but the hangovers and brokeness suck.

lol i still ahve engouh money for food... and gear... i dont take gear

[xnotoriousx]

Really now that I think about it, it's really a dumb question because it's going to be different for each person.

It's all about what your body genetically can handle.

Being that I have the long lean gene, I think that it won't hinder my progress to bad as my goals are to just make muscle gains with low fat gain. Now when cutting, I think if I want to drop body fat low, I think I WILL have to stick to a all week game plan.

I just can't give up my weekends and was wanting to know how bad does the weekend warrior lifting program slow down muscle gains.

[makod]

I have a friend who drinks, smokes weed, doesn't diet/eats like shit, doesn't do cardio , he does train hard at weights and is naturally at easily 8%. Yes everybody is different.

[eatrainrest]

got friends liek that too... lucky bastards lol

[xnotoriousx]

it's really not fair but that's life.

I can get over the guys that naturally stay lean no matter what, but it's the guys that all they have to do is fart and to gain muscle mass.... that kills me!!!

[xnotoriousx]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=391141

then check out page 2 where he posted up his diet.... Now this makes me jealous as HELL!

[eatrainrest]

well you know waht... im 5'9 and a half. my mom is 5'1 and my dad is 5'2 and a half. grandparents just about the same height. i cosnider myself blessed!

[thabeastmaster]

skip the beer and go straight for the bottle!! i started my 12 weeks of hell yesterday and drank my last Mickeys sunday night...(gotta love mickeys, afterall..its FINE malt likker!)

now its vodka and unsweetened cranberry juice (see how dedicated i am, even drinkin the unsweet stuff! lol)

twice a month, couple vodka cran's....ive fullfilled my disfunctional need to be intoxicated and kept the calories down to a min....

my issues have always been the 10pm carb cravings grrrrrrrrrrr, fought them off last night but it wasnt fun...


honestly bro, nobody but YOU can determine if what you are doing is slowing your progress.....genetics man.....how bout the guys who roll around in wheel chairs with shredded abs? or the guys walkin out of popeyes with a large box of chicken and are at less than 10% (mostly slave geneitcs however ...i live in the south..hehehe)

say no to beer....go buy a bottle (dont get hammered though, excessive alcohol isnt exactly friendly on your natural test production)

[xnotoriousx]

You may be onto something, the beer is probably the real issue, especially with it messing with test levels. The 2 day surge of non diet food prob is not as bad as I might think.

[thabeastmaster]

there is no 1 specific thing that is the sole culprit....two days of junk eating is going to be a factor as well....the main result the beer is going to have (unless your getting drunk constantly then there are more negative effects) is the excess carb/calories.....i mentioned booze/hard likker/moonshine (grandpa's sauce just takes 3 sips and ur good) because you get more alcohol with less calories....unless ur drinking girly foo foo sugar pile drinks....i stick with the occasional gin n tonics, vodka cran....etc

[Reed]

To me its the alcohol. Regardless of where it comes from.

All you have to do is read an article on the effects of alcohol and athletes.

[eatrainrest]

alcohol=7 calories per gram.. what does it do for bodybuilding? ZERO

carbs/protein-4 calories per gram

[makod]

1 standard drink = 10 grams of alchohol = 70 cals

[DSM4Life]

Looking good Reed. Can you adopt me ?

[xnotoriousx]

yeah i'm just going to stop drinking beers and stuff, and great advice on buying the strong stuff. Maybe i'll grab a bottle of wild turkey 101 for nights I know i'll drink and keep it to about 3-4 shots.

I think I need the weekends to eat freely just to stay sane. Otherwise, I break down and then beat myself up to much about it and then I just feel like quitting. The fact of the matter to me is, that bad food, is GOOD!!!! I got to have atleast a day each week to eat what I want.


Here's a better picture to gauge body fat, I may be 13% not sure.


ps sorry for making you look tiny reed

[Reed]

Its not about the calories to grams its the alcohol itself that is so harmful regardless of where it comes from just the combination of useless carbs and cals makes it that much worse but it IS the alcohol. Shall I grab a list of all the stuff alcohol does? I mean I thought people would realize this...... Its what holds peoples progress back so much IMO.

Looking good Reed. Can you adopt me ?

Yes but this adoption process works different you have to send me a check every month in order to keep you.....

yeah i'm just going to stop drinking beers and stuff, and great advice on buying the strong stuff. Maybe i'll grab a bottle of wild turkey 101 for nights I know i'll drink and keep it to about 3-4 shots.

I think I need the weekends to eat freely just to stay sane. Otherwise, I break down and then beat myself up to much about it and then I just feel like quitting. The fact of the matter to me is, that bad food, is GOOD!!!! I got to have atleast a day each week to eat what I want.


Here's a better picture to gauge body fat, I may be 13% not sure.


ps sorry for making you look tiny reed

Its ok I'll let it slide next time send me a pm

I know what your saying but I'm willing to bet a few cheats meals a couple times a week is no where near as bad as a full night of drinking and being drunk. At least it hasn't been in my progress during the offseason. After a good night of drinking back in the day after the games at our university it would take 2-3 days just to get my strength back and feel full again. I'll grab a list of how it slows down our protein synthesis etc etc

That never happened with out of the 56 meals I'd eat a week 4-6 would be cheat

[eatrainrest]

id put you in the 12% range NOTOR.. and REED... put a shirt on your embarrasing us lol

[xnotoriousx]

id put you in the 12% range NOTOR.. and REED... put a shirt on your embarrasing us lol

Hey eat, I threw in some splenda, a little vanilla extract into the pancake batter and let me tell you what, these things are tha BOMB!!!

[thabeastmaster]

reed...

i totally get you with the negative effects of the alcohol itself....i agree...i was just saying that IF one INSISTS on getting tipsy....the lesser of evils would at least be a a shot as opposed to the beer....notorious says that he downs approx a 12 pack....i was just speaking with regards to the mountains of calories he's taking in along with the alcohol....

they have done studies to show how alcohol can actually inhibit your natural test production....amongst a myriad of other things im sure!

you're right, bottom line...no booze is the best.....dang, i ran out of gin...gotta run to the store, catch yall later

[eatrainrest]

Hey eat, I threw in some splenda, a little vanilla extract into the pancake batter and let me tell you what, these things are tha BOMB!!!

i told you so bro