Horror stories from starting to young!

[Immortal Soldier]

If you look in an earlier post i said he is 30 well about 31 now he does not even need trt!! he is in perfect shape and gets tested by the US Navy Every 3 months because he is an active Navy Seal! It has been 13 years since he has done them! So what exactly 13 years later is all of the sudden going to happen to him.... Nothing! they are out of his system, his levels are completely normal and anything to do wit the juice is 100% out of his system! Yeh he could have a heart atack tomorrow but you know what? so could my brother who is an athlete and barely takes aspirin.

See the problem here is to not use him as the standard across the board, each body is unique and complex hence there are tons of people who slip through the cracks, but there are also those who get caught in them as well.

Now its easy to take your friend and say "Oh well since he did it and he is fine than it applies to me or joe blow down the street as well". It doesn't work that way, you don't have the same genetics as him or the same family history as him.

I mean there are tons of retired now Pro-bodybuilders who had to get surgeries due to their steroid use, Arnold and Flex Wheeler are some I can think of right off the top of my head. Of course one could argue what they took/how long/whatever, but the point is someone can do dozens of cycles and be fine when they are 60 and someone else can do several and have to have heart surgery at 40.

Steroids most likely do have some type of negative effect on the body in the long run anyone who disputes that is just in denial. Fluctuation of hormones, introduction of carcinogenics (nolva/clomid), supression of LH and FSH, scattering of the lipid profile, etc. over and over through time is going to have to play some role in the body. The problem here is we don't know what or to what extent because there have been no real studies.

[ninesecz]

See the problem here is to not use him as the standard across the board, each body is unique and complex hence there are tons of people who slip through the cracks, but there are also those who get caught in them as well.

Now its easy to take your friend and say "Oh well since he did it and he is fine than it applies to me or joe blow down the street as well". It doesn't work that way, you don't have the same genetics as him or the same family history as him.

I mean there are tons of retired now Pro-bodybuilders who had to get surgeries due to their steroid use, Arnold and Flex Wheeler are some I can think of right off the top of my head. Of course one could argue what they took/how long/whatever, but the point is someone can do dozens of cycles and be fine when they are 60 and someone else can do several and have to have heart surgery at 40.

Steroids most likely do have some type of negative effect on the body in the long run anyone who disputes that is just in denial. Fluctuation of hormones, introduction of carcinogenics (nolva/clomid), supression of LH and FSH, scattering of the lipid profile, etc. over and over through time is going to have to play some role in the body. The problem here is we don't know what or to what extent because there have been no real studies.

I agree with you a 100% and that is what I orignally said! there is no way of knowing whats going to happen until you have already done it! I was just giving an example aoa person who has done 4-5 cycles when he was young and now has not touched them in over 12 years and luckily is fine People are thinking now because they hear 18 is too young that automatically if a kid did them then watch out cause he HAS TO get some medical issues and that is just not the case like you say.... some do 100cycles and no issues, others can do 2 cycles and get a ton of crap happening. its all in your genetics