Yes I see tha everyone has there own thouhts on this and even though i am a firm believer that if you had so eone watching over you and you are trying to get to a top contender than there is no option but to start AAS before 25!! Do i think all kids should be playing around with it NO! But take someone like Flex Lewis who is i think 25-26yrs old right now and turned pr when he was I think 21-22yrs old .. When he was 16-17 and was told by everyone around him.. Your Huge you got a good chance to be a pro bodybuilder and the trainers and everyone else said to him " your gonna have to go to the dark side" If he would have said " i am just too young to do these I am going to wait until I am mid 20's" where would he be right now? He sure as hell would not be a professional bodybuilder at the age he is now! As I said, there are certain circumstances where there is almost "no choice" for a person in a situation like that