oh another thing, is the gel and creams can cause skin rash or jock itch!! I ended up with both during the summer season. I switched to the andriol pills, but they are very expensive. the good thing about the andriol thoe, according to my doc, they wont shrink your sack. the way they developed the andriol wont shut down your own testosterone production and it wont convert to estrogen or dht. Or so my doc says, lol. Anyways just do some research on it and good luck with it! see what best works for you.