yeah i was already thinking about 500mg of test a week for 12 weeks, i was also thinking maybe 400mg of deca as well and stop it a week or 2 prior to stoping the test or do you think that would just be a waist to only run the deca for 10 weeks. i can run my cycle not including pct all the way up to oct 29th. your pct looks pretty good though i will definately use that. do you think it is still pointless to stack the deca if i run it till oct 29th and also the win-v is probably not even worth adding to this cycle is it.