Test E/ Tren/ Winny cycle plans

[Roidbeginner]

I'm planning my third cycle and wanna to try to gain lean muscle mass.

Wk1-2: Test E 500mg/wk
Wk2-12: Test E 500mg/ 50mg Tren acetate ED or tren enthanate 75mg EOD
: Winstrol
Wk13-14: Test E 500mg/wk
PCT: Anavar
Novaldex
arimidex
carbegolline

Qn: which is better? Tren A or Tren E?

Qn: what is a good starting dose for winstrol? oral or injectable?

Qn: I heard winstrol cause joint problems?

welcome your expertise and comments

[redz]

Theres some definite questions to ask you here....

Why run anavar during pct?

Why would you run Tren E eod?

Give us some stats please.

[Roidbeginner]

It's a mistake. It shld be proviron and not anavar

Tren E is more long lasting and acetate form and thus i thought eod will be sufficient compared to ed.

my stats:
5"8
185lbs

[ranging1]

if its a long ester (ethanate) u only need to inject it twice a week, 3.5 days apart

[lelyano23]

where is ur states and cycle history??

[Aizen Sosuke]

For your current cycle Trenbolon. Enanthate will be more convenient since you could shoot it with testosterone enanthate every 3.5 days. Please list your cycle history and age so the more experienced members could assist you better.

[RANA]

do tren A/test prop. If you start having bad sides with tren then if you stop using tren A the sides should stop in about 3 days but if you stop using Tren E the sides wont stop for about 2 weeks

[Roidbeginner]

My last cycle was :

600mg Test E/ wk (12 wks)
500mg Deca/wk (11 wks)
and 40mg D-bol (4 wks)

I gained over 18lbs on this cycle and reduced my BF. Keeping abt half of the gain after PCT.

Wanting to gain lean muscle using Tren/winstrol combo.

wht your opinions on starting dose for Tren? 75mg/day?

and winstrol? 50mg tab/day?

[Aizen Sosuke]

If you haven't bought any gear yet then testosterone propionate and trenbolone acetate would be the way to go for your goals, dosed at 100mg/EOD. As far as winstrol 50mg/day is ok. Do it in the last 4 weeks of the cycle which should last between 10-12 IMO.

[bmit]

first time running tren use tren-a so you can drop it if side effects become too acute and nasty (insomina, shortness of breath, bad aggression,acne, hair loss -gotta love tren, lol).

Run your tren for 6 weeks (9-14). forget the winny for now and just see how you respond to tren alone. Tren/winny/prop you can then use for a sickening cutting cycle

[Roidbeginner]

thanks for your input, I will try it out and post my effects

[RANA]

thanks for your input, I will try it out and post my effects

So what is you cycle going to look like to include your PCT?

[Roidbeginner]

this is my amended cycle:

wk1-14: Test E 500mg/ wk + 25mg proviron + 0.25mg letrozole

wK1-10: + 75mg Tren A EOD (300mg/wk)

wk10-14: + 25mg Winstrol

PCT
wk1-4: 25mg Novaldex + 30mg clomid
wk1-5: HCG injection twice/ wk

[JK-87]

Tren a will shut you down before your test e kicks in. Start tren a at week 4.
ALSO INJECT ED FOR LESS SIDES ON YOUR TREN A.
GOOD LUCK.

[redz]

Running letro on cycle also can cause issues. It is better to use only if necessary. Also you may want to ahve caber or bromo on hand incase of prolactin sides from the tren.

[Lean1038]

Running letro on cycle also can cause issues. It is better to use only if necessary. Also you may want to ahve caber or bromo on hand incase of prolactin sides from the tren.

I recommend lowering your test dosage during cutting cycles. Especically if Tren is in place alongside it as Tren drastically amplifies estrogen related side effects from compounds that aromatize.

However, you could cut nicely on Test E/Proviron/Clen with FAR less sides IMHO.

[calgarian]

I may be wrong but you can run tren a and test p cycle for 10 weeks....believe me u will feel like pin cushion by 10th week.

[RANA]

I may be wrong but you can run tren a and test p cycle for 10 weeks....believe me u will feel like pin cushion by 10th week.

I just ran that cycle a few months ago and believe it or not I didn't feel like a pin cushion. The feeling of being on tren and prop was amazing I really didnt want to stop but didnt want to take it for too long.

[Roidbeginner]

took letrozole to lower estrogen so as to prevent tren from enhancing estrogen side effects.

could not get caber or bromo this time.

I use 0.25mg per day, it shld be low enough?

or you suggest I take it EOD so that the sides from letrozole is low and I still get some lowering on my estrogen?

[Roidbeginner]

where you guys inject? doing tren ED is a chore, two butt cheeks and two arms? I didn't want to do the legs cos it cause more pain

have anyone notice it's more painful to inject tren acetate than test or deca?

[redz]

You will have to add either quads and or chest or something else to shoot ed.

[RANA]

Qlutes, shouders and pecs, I never do quads with prop

[RuhlFreak55]

Running letro on cycle also can cause issues. It is better to use only if necessary. Also you may want to ahve caber or bromo on hand incase of prolactin sides from the tren.

What's the rationale for this???? the not running letro...i always run it

[RuhlFreak55]

Qlutes, shouders and pecs, I never do quads with prop

i'll second this....whatever quad i inject with that doesn't work the next 2 days or so

[redz]

I`m just saying it can cause issues so if a weaker AI could work I think it would be better. It killed my sex drive even at low doses which was an issue for me other than that it works incredibly well.

[RuhlFreak55]

I`m just saying it can cause issues so if a weaker AI could work I think it would be better. It killed my sex drive even at low doses which was an issue for me other than that it works incredibly well.

oh ok....the sex drive thing isn't an issue for me...and i don't mind if it would be suppressed anyway as i don't have an outlet

[Aizen Sosuke]

this is my amended cycle:

wk1-14: Test E 500mg/ wk + 25mg proviron + 0.25mg letrozole switch letro for A-dex and keep it short 12 weeks is long enough

wK1-10: + 75mg Tren A EOD (300mg/wk) Start tren A in week 4-12

wk10-14: + 25mg Winstrol drop it tren is very powerful you'd be wasting gear

PCT
wk1-4: 25mg Novaldex + 30mg clomid start clomid at 100mg for the first week then 50mg for 2 more weeks
wk1-5: HCG injection twice/ wk

I recomend to run HCG starting the last week of the cycle till the end of first week of PCT at 500iu EOD