Tren E and Tren A... same sides???

[The Deuce]

Awesome!

Yea I have had no sides with my prior cycles. And I know this is Tren, the nector of the gods, I have done my homework, but you hear so many different stories about sides from different people. It is reassuring to hear that from you Deuce.

How long did you run the Tren and when did you feel it "kick in"?

12 week run, but I did kickstart it with ACE.. so I FELT It withing the first week... Ran ACE... Dosed at 75mgs per ML at 1/2ml ED for 21days, and when I came off the ACE the E was rockin' in my system.. didn't feel a fluctuation at all between the switch.. so technically I ran 262.5mgs of Tren A per week for the first 3 weeks and with the ESTER consideration when the Enan ester took over it was just SLIGHTLY MORE Powerful... if you base it upon the fact you get 78mgs per 100mgs = 234mgs of Tren Enan per week if running 300 and with regards to ACE.. I think it's 85mgs per 100mgs.. so ROUGHLY about 210-220mgs of Tren A per week... IN REGARDS TO ESTER WEIGHT.. I do not know if THOSE NUMBERS ARE 100% Accurate but they are definitely in the ballpark...

Anyways.. if you do not kickstart with the ACE ester... you are looking at a kick in at or around the 3 week mark... You will notice SOME before then.. BUT FULL BLOWN ASS KICKING Comes in at the 3 week mark... so if you run it for 12 weeks you are looking at some SICK NASTY GAINS if your diet is spot on... If I were YOU though... RUN that Test for 14 weeks, and the Tren for 12.... JMHO.

TOPGUN you gon LOVE IT !!!


P.S.- YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STOCKPILED CABERGOLINE !!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY !!! If nothing else make sure you have plenty of that....

And DO NOT FORGET YOUR PCT !!!!!!!!!!!!

[MR10X]

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren A and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start with 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

[Lean1038]

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren A and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start with 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

Bump for thoughts on this.

I understand Tren amplifys the estrogenic sides from agents that aromatize and planned on only running 200mg of Test with it, but this idea sparks my interest.

Vets please chim in.

[Topgun1]

12 week run, but I did kickstart it with ACE.. so I FELT It withing the first week... Ran ACE... Dosed at 75mgs per ML at 1/2ml ED for 21days, and when I came off the ACE the E was rockin' in my system.. didn't feel a fluctuation at all between the switch.. so technically I ran 262.5mgs of Tren A per week for the first 3 weeks and with the ESTER consideration when the Enan ester took over it was just SLIGHTLY MORE Powerful... if you base it upon the fact you get 78mgs per 100mgs = 234mgs of Tren Enan per week if running 300 and with regards to ACE.. I think it's 85mgs per 100mgs.. so ROUGHLY about 210-220mgs of Tren A per week... IN REGARDS TO ESTER WEIGHT.. I do not know if THOSE NUMBERS ARE 100% Accurate but they are definitely in the ballpark...

Anyways.. if you do not kickstart with the ACE ester... you are looking at a kick in at or around the 3 week mark... You will notice SOME before then.. BUT FULL BLOWN ASS KICKING Comes in at the 3 week mark... so if you run it for 12 weeks you are looking at some SICK NASTY GAINS if your diet is spot on... If I were YOU though... RUN that Test for 14 weeks, and the Tren for 12.... JMHO.

TOPGUN you gon LOVE IT !!!


P.S.- YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STOCKPILED CABERGOLINE !!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY !!! If nothing else make sure you have plenty of that....

And DO NOT FORGET YOUR PCT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Great advice man!

I was planning on running Test E 500mg/week 12 weeks, Tren E 300mg/Week 10weeks. You think I should run the Tren E for 12 weeks?

As far as the Caber. I have come to realize that I am not estrogen sensitive. I have ran Test up to 750mg/week with no sides. As far as the Tren is, that is my only concern is the progesterone/prolactin sides. Did you have any or did you just run a maintance does of Caber throughout the cycle.

What PCT did you follow?

Thanks