Originally Posted by
ranging1
OK i havent read all ur posts, so sorry if i repeat something BUT FUK DERS 3 pages here lol
this is what i think and from what ive studied, im currently studying economics and accounting (i know its not religion BUT im majoring in religious studies, history of economys and globalisation) so ive done alot of study into this, and GOD AND RELIGION always seem to be a hot subject in all areas
i think god i a creation by man, it is an idea or belief that forms part of religion not necessarily, they can stand separately.
the definition of religion is: a belief
therefore if GOD forms part of a religion then he forms part of a belief
their are many different religions, and NO ONE CAN ARGUE which is right, its like argueing whos beliefs are right, its completely based upon morals, idea, culture etc
IMO i think god and religion were created as an idea by man to help GUIDE man, no man, religions was created by men to control and dominate others.lets face it i dont know ANY WELL KNOWN religions that believe MURDER or STEALING is right, AND I DONT THINK THEY EVER SHOULD BE sorry but you should read more. for instance the holy bible, it is well written that murders and beat one's wife and many others..., are more than welcome. if you don't trust me, go and read it, you might get surprised. i am talking about the last holy bible, the king giàcomo's one revised in 1603. the one that you find in the hotel/motel around usa with the complimentary of the gideon society. by the way, look for gideon in the holy bible, it should be in chapter 6, and you will see how good he was...
but look at many religions around the world and realise alot of them CATOR to a certain society and economy
heres few examples
china is a typicalt buddist beliefs country, buddism emphsises around hard work, caring for each other, respect for elders and family etc
at the same time chinas economy and culture are based on the teachinga of conficious (a famous chinese man i cbf explaining), these teachings are exactly identical to the religion of buddism and chinas legal system is founded upon this aswell.
the parculiar thing is that both confucism and buddism emerged at a time when china was a country in war, several stated were at war with each continuosly, what emerged? confucism and buddism teaching that CARE and love were the way, NOT FIGHTING, this even halped prevent wars
Coincidence?
when countires like UK wanted to expand their economy quickly the government of UK supported christian teachings, hell they gave the religion money.......
early christian and catholic countries such as england, christianity taught hard work, care for one another,
but at same time perceived wealth as a sign hard work, the more u had the harder u had worked,
its no wonder the first economys to develop rapidly were christian (england, dutch, United states, french) Coincidence?
muslim countires are another example, typicalt beliefs in the countires were MEN were superior, this was becuase one of the first empereors of early islamic empires believed this would strengthen his army and economy after learning early teachings of the muslim religion from Mohammads predessors,
(for those of u who dont know Mohammed, he was basically a man who came up with the idea of the muslim relgion, BTW he didnt come up with this idea up until the age of 40? so u can already question the religion), he sore himself as the messenger of god (ALLAH)
the islamics legal system began to revolve around muslim due to the empereors heavy beliefs influenced by muhammads teachings,
what does the muslim religion teach? that exact same thing thier legal system and economy are based upon. Coincidence?
what im trying to point out here is that the differences in religion ARE ALL shown to revolve around different economysi would say it in another way since i would speak about domination, the economy is a consequence.
heavy early capitalist economys ALL were christian or catholic
Merchantalism economys were heavyily surrounded by Muslim teachings
buddist, hindu, punjab etc all early stages were dictatorships and empires, or socialist (i wont say communist becuase that is INCORRECT, communist is a term used to describe alot fo countires, when really its the wrong word and people who use it usually have NO IDEA what it means)
NOW i know der alot of arguements to this so ill try prevent a few since i know alot of people will disagree, HELL i disagree, IM CATHOLIC, BUT its hard to argue my beliefs with THE BIBLE SAYS SO, when theirs evidence to show my bible is wrong, especially when another religion like Jewish seems to teach HALF MY RELIGION and denys the other half....... (old testemant and new testament)
A. some people say we all originally believe in the same god. and over time since man kind as seperated through land movements etc our religions has evolved or changed to suite areas and cultures?
NO im sorry, first the continants shiftled LONG before mankind was around, so we all originated from different continants, so every different religion CAME from a different person..........., UNLESS he could swim from america to asia......... (i Doubt)
B. People have souls?
Do we? think about the first time u even thought about having a soul? guess it wasnt before primary school? for another fact i bet u can barely remeber anything from ur childhood between the ages of 1-4?
reason why is our Brains develop in stages, each stage allows us to do different things
its the reason why soo many kids toys are bright colours, its becuase our brains at that age are attracted and can see bright colours clearly, while other colours are still unclear
what does this have to do with a soul? well the idea of a soul is just a creation of ur mind, if u couldnt think about having a soul at 2 or didnt even know what a soul is, then how can u say u have one when it was either an idea someone told u about or u learnt it from somewhere, or u use it to describe the thing ur personality is becuase u dont know how to describe ur existance?
ANOTHER: christianity or catholic is the most logical religion and most popular becuase of that?
NO, most likely or not if ur christian u live in a counrty that is either A. industrialised or capitalist, B. live sin a country that has either had english, dutch, portuguese or spanish influence due to these 4 nations owned together almost 80% of the world at a stage in time, they ALL were christian or catholic and helped develop and industrialise countries, they spread their religion through countires and its little wonder why SO MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES are these 2 religions, thats why its so popular in these countries
what im trying to come accross here is that GOD, religion, etc are all ideas of man that emerged as time went on and MANKIND began to develop into different stages
thiers endless evidence to support that religion and god are just a belief, theirs NOTHING to support that GOD exists, only beliefs
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