ginkobiloba (sp?) is supposed to help with memory. what it does is thins the blood a bit so that the blood can travel further into minute areas of the brain. I don't know if it really works but a lot of people, who were on blood thinners for heart problems, had strokes becuase they were taking a lot of ginko and were on heavy blood thinners.

as you likely know, ginko is over the counter.

the point of roids is to lose your mind!