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    Keep up the good work bro... there is always room for newer members stepping up.



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    Hey I'm curious about something. Here's what I understand so far:

    Durabolin = Nandrolone phenyl-propionate = NPP
    Deca-Durabolin = Nandrolone decanoate

    So "Durabolin" and "Deca-Durabolin" are the same steroid except they have different esters attached (in much the same way that Test Prop and Test Enan are the same steroid).

    I understand that different esters results in different release times (i.e. longer esters take longer to release), but what I don't understand is how the same steroid with different esters attached can have a different effect?

    For instance, you say that NPP causes less water retention. I'm curious about this... I mean both NPP and Deca get broken down to the same steroid, so it's the same steroid that's flowing through your blood and getting to your muscles.

    People tend to say the same thing about Test Prop, i.e. they say that it causes less water retention than longer esters such as Test Enan. I'm curious how this could be so, because they both become Testosterone eventually.

    I remember I started a thread on this a while back but I couldn't really get a definitive answer: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398073

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    Hey I'm curious about something. Here's what I understand so far:

    Durabolin = Nandrolone phenyl-propionate = NPP
    Deca-Durabolin = Nandrolone decanoate

    So "Durabolin" and "Deca-Durabolin" are the same steroid except they have different esters attached (in much the same way that Test Prop and Test Enan are the same steroid).

    I understand that different esters results in different release times (i.e. longer esters take longer to release), but what I don't understand is how the same steroid with different esters attached can have a different effect?

    For instance, you say that NPP causes less water retention. I'm curious about this... I mean both NPP and Deca get broken down to the same steroid, so it's the same steroid that's flowing through your blood and getting to your muscles.

    People tend to say the same thing about Test Prop, i.e. they say that it causes less water retention than longer esters such as Test Enan. I'm curious how this could be so, because they both become Testosterone eventually.

    I remember I started a thread on this a while back but I couldn't really get a definitive answer: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398073
    wow bro! haha, that was an essay question

    This is the basic rule:

    The shorter the ester attached to the compound, the less water retention that will occur. All it means is just leaner gains, because long esters are associated with bloat.

    The longer the ester (IE) test-E = more conversion to estrogen, and estrogen is what gives us bloat.

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    Dear sir that made this thread how does this look

    I'm running 200mg of npp 2 times a week in the cycle I listed starting yesterday

    In this thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...41#post5307141

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    if someone were to do a cycle of npp and sust would it be dumb to use dbol with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amoureux View Post
    Dear sir that made this thread how does this look

    I'm running 200mg of npp 2 times a week in the cycle I listed starting yesterday

    In this thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...41#post5307141
    NPP is a really short ester, you need to pin it EOD at minimum.

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